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#1 doctorfunk

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:09 AM

Hey I'm looking for a ow budget card, that would enable me to run most games especially older games(like 2010 and older) on high details and in 1920x1080 res. I have a PCI-E x16 slot on my mobo. Any thoughts?
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- low noise level
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:17 AM

whats low cost
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:20 AM

>100 USD, >70 euro
preferably, but could spend more to get the best bang for the buck gpu
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:52 AM

looks like jesa is on the case

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:37 AM

Which processor and PSU do you have? Absolute max budget?
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:55 AM

atm
pentium e5200 2 x 2,5
ram 2gb ram ddr2 1066
mobo pci-e slot; 2.0 x16
power; modecom premium 400w
asus nvidia 9600gso 384mb

Dunno about absolute budget yet, I don't want to spend too much because in 3-5yrs I will probably buy new pc.
Therefore I want to do a cheap upgrade. I will add ram and new gpu. The less money I will spend on this old pc, the better.
If I wouldn't have to update psu for this new gpu it would be the best solution.

something like Radeon HD 4850 1GB DDR5 would be in my price range
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:19 AM

I wouldn't buy any gpu anymore nowadays. Intel hd4000 integrated graphics on Ivy Bridge processors is more than sufficient...

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:31 PM

I wouldn't buy any gpu anymore nowadays. Intel hd4000 integrated graphics on Ivy Bridge processors is more than sufficient...

i have a laptop with an i5+hd4000 gfx and it runs sof really good (just as good as my main pc) apart from fps dropping a little near firenades. if u plan on playing any newer games u definitely need a separate gfx card.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:37 PM

any opinions on this;
http://www.agito.pl/...html?acc=405762


price; 77.34 USD / 60.42 EU

However I have doubts if my modecom premium 400w will handle this. So maybe you can suggest something little worse than can work on 400w without any problems.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:45 PM

i have NVIDIA Sparkle GTS250

bought it 3 years ago i think for like 120 euro.. i think its much cheaper now.

i can play the most games. cod mw3 etc on highest with no prob..

and if i look at ur specs.. then this card would do the work..

and owye.. before this card i had the 9600GT..

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 01:55 PM

@Funk; Don't buy such an outdated gpu. If you are on a budget and want the best bang for bucks, go for AMD!

I don't know about the prices in Poland, but try looking for something like an AMD 6670(startingprices from 58euro and up)
or maybe an AMD 6770 or 6750, startingprices at arround 80euros.

The 6670 is comparable with the older 4850 but with a lower TDP of 66W so you don't even need an extra powercable from your PSU, the motherboard's PCI-slot can deliver enough power.

More then enough for what you're planning to use it for regarding your explanation and probably cheaper as well. Plus it's a lot newer model, hence it will support more games.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 02:42 PM

I've read about both 4850 and 6670, and 4850 1gb ddr5 256bit is faster and cheaper than 6770 series, drawbacks being lack of support for dx11, noise
compared to 6770

The 6670 is comparable with the older 4850 but with a lower TDP of 66W so you don't even need an extra powercable from your PSU, the motherboard's PCI-slot can deliver enough power.


that's the reason I will probably go with 6770(or similar) :( :(
unless I will buy a decent psu(but I'd rather not do that)

http://www.agito.pl/...-84-543236.html

I can get 6670 for same price, but it uses 2.1 PCI, I have 2.0 on my motherboard I guess that's not good?
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:29 PM

I went from a Nvidia 9600 GSO (which I believe is the card that you have right now) to an AMD Radeon HD 6750 (which I purchased for 120 dollars USD about 6 months ago).

The card is great. It's a 1 GB card, it runs any game on max FPS that has been out in the past year, and it runs sof2 without problems. I have no qualms with AMD or the Catalyst software the driver comes with. The only issue I had when I purchased the card was that I needed a better power supply (I believe 500+ V). So I went out a purchased a 20 dollar power supply and voila.

In all honesty, doctorfunk, if you plan on buying a new computer, I suggest you just do it now. If you are on budget, then why do you need a graphics card now? Save and buy that computer later if this is actually the case.

Regardless, I suggest what most of these other people are suggesting. AMD cards are shitty, but cheaper and well worth the cheapness. If you want the best of the best, do not get AMD though. And you will be able to run all your beloved games.

For reference:

With an AMD Radeon HD 6750 and 2 GB of RAM and a 2.6 Ghz dual-core I can run:

GW2 on highest settings at 60 FPS.
Diablo 3 highest settings 60 FPS.
Borderlands 2 highest settings 120 FPS.
Witcher 2 highest settings 40 FPS.
Skyrim ultra settings 30 FPS.

In other words, you can easily upgrade your crap PC for the next 3-5 years in under 150 dollars with an AMD card.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:30 PM

PCI-E 2.1 is backwards compatible with PCI-E 2.0. When you pick a new graphics card, don't settle with DDR3 edition. DDR5 editions are quite a bit faster than their DDR3 brethren and they don't cost much more.

Here are my suggestions equipped with DDR5 and custom, quieter coolers from these manufacturers:
Asus Radeon HD 6670 GDDR5 or Sapphire Radeon HD 7750 GDDR5

HD 7750 should give you a great 1920x1080 performance in pre-2011 games. Your E5200 will no doubt bottleneck it in certain situations but still you'd have a big advantage over HD 6670 with HD 7750. Last gen HD 6670 is a good choice too if you don't feel like spending a little more for HD 7750. They both don't require auxiliary power from your PSU so you should be fine with your current PSU.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:36 PM

PCI-E 2.1 is backwards compatible with PCI-E 2.0. When you pick a new graphics card, don't settle with DDR3 edition. DDR5 editions are quite a bit faster than their DDR3 brethren and they don't cost much more.

Here are my suggestions equipped with DDR5 and custom, quieter coolers from these manufacturers:
Asus Radeon HD 6670 GDDR5 or Sapphire Radeon HD 7750 GDDR5

HD 7750 should give you a great 1920x1080 performance in pre-2011 games. Your E5200 will no doubt bottleneck it in certain situations but still you'd have a big advantage over HD 6670 with HD 7750. Last gen HD 6670 is a good choice too if you don't feel like spending a little more for HD 7750. They both don't require auxiliary power from your PSU so you should be fine with your current PSU.


+1 Both great suggestions. If only I had listened to Jesa prior to buying my own and making the PSU mistake.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:55 PM

thanks forgay & jesa

I will probably go for that 6670 1gb ddr5, since it ill be safe to use with my PSU.
I won't buy new pc now forgay; I'm spending monies on that 27" inch BenQ.
I just want one decent enough to run all(almost all) games on medium. Old games on max.
So +2gb ram, +new gpu will have to do for next 3 years. You guys think that's decent enough?
+/- forgay how much better is your card than this 6670?


MSI/Gigabyte version are somehow inferior to sapphire/asus ones?

though I'm contemplating this 7750 as well... even lower power-consumption and better specs wow
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 04:43 PM

thanks forgay & jesa

I will probably go for that 6670 1gb ddr5, since it ill be safe to use with my PSU.
I won't buy new pc now forgay; I'm spending monies on that 27" inch BenQ.
I just want one decent enough to run all(almost all) games on medium. Old games on max.
So +2gb ram, +new gpu will have to do for next 3 years. You guys think that's decent enough?
+/- forgay how much better is your card than this 6670?


MSI/Gigabyte version are somehow inferior to sapphire/asus ones?


I don't understand the logic here since both the HD 6670 and the HD 7750 should be safe to use with your PSU. Also I don't think you'll be running newer heavy games even on low settings with HD 6670 in next few years with a decent frame rate. Let alone you'll be badly slowed down by your cpu by then.

Sapphire and Asus cards are just the ones I'm more familiar with.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 04:50 PM

I don't understand the logic here since both the HD 6670 and the HD 7750 should be safe to use with your PSU.


I just said I will go with one of them because of that
thanks for tip

Just read that hd7750 is not enough for pcie2.0 to be a bottleneck, that's a good thing too
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 04:54 PM

The differences between the 6750 and the 6670 that Jesa suggested are very subtle. Small things like Stream Processors (I believe mine is better for Streaming as it requires more power to run). Although I think the 6670 (at least according to Newegg) has a higher core clock rate.

All in all, subtle differences and probably a range of 30-40 bucks. The 6750 is a larger card, therefore requires more space in your case.

Again, I think Jesa made two really good suggestions. Both great cards and the fact that you don't have to change the PSU is a huge bonus as that was 20 dollars out of my pocket (although I didn't mind the additional power). You will definitely last with either of those cards playing any new game coming out within the next 3 years fairly well. In all fairness.

And stop calling me forgay you piece of shit

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:04 PM

Again, I think Jesa made two really good suggestions. Both great cards and the fact that you don't have to change the PSU is a huge bonus as that was 20 dollars out of my pocket (although I didn't mind the additional power). You will definitely last with either of those cards playing any new game coming out within the next 3 years fairly well. In all fairness.


well that's good to hear, thanks for your opinion :)
I will maybe even spend more to buy that 7750hd and give myself and extra year before buying a new pc ;)

New (decent PSU) is sadly more like 50 dollars or more
I bought 400w fortron for my gf pc, and 400w modecom for mine and there's a big difference in noise level
I can barely hear her pc, while mine sounds like something between an electric toothbrush and a blender
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