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[maniman]

just wanted to know if anyone wanted to share light on the topic? Just curious since noone on the streets where i spend most of my time at, they dont even know what cern is.

heaven and hell > string theory
Time travel
Other dimensions, etc

Great shit to philophize about
Also, the new theory about gravity those dutch scientists got noble awarded for can be discussed in this topic.. Im kind of drunk at a boring houseparty so i leave it to someone else to start a discussion or w.e...

Anyway, great era to live in, lol.. Crazy shit happening all around us..

any demo players left on db intressted in this stuff? Tell me, what will be possible if einstein idd will be proven wrong? to start off the topic.

[asrael]

First of all, it's neutrinos :)And the article itself concerning the research hasn't been released yet as far as i know. The results they had, which has been published in almost every newspaper probably, is most likely due to measurement mistakes since you can't measure the speed of single neutrinos and they move in groups. Even if you could, these methods always have a certain error. It means that the 60 nanoseconds they took off the speed of light was an average of the particles, which would not mean anything since i believe the error on these methods is about ~10 microseconds.

Plus, even if it were true, it would mean that neutrinos have a lighter mass than light particles, according to Einstein's e= mc square and it would not mean that we would be able to time travel even if we were to be able to travel faster than 'the speed of light'. Timetravel would require paralel universes and such and the universes would have to be able to 'interact' with eachother, constantly changing fates and such.

Show me the articles plox, i would love to read them and their proper conclusions.

PS: this is still a section for discussion. Provide some arguments or facts which does not include calling people dumbfucks.

PPS: Twice is not much for something this controversial

Edited by doctorfunk, 01 October 2011 - 11:50 PM.

[Kenshin-Horus]

There's error in everything so it's likely that the measurements have a certain degree of error involved, even with the latest and greatest of all measuring equipment.

[asrael]

There's error in everything so it's likely that the measurements have a certain degree of error involved, even with the latest and greatest of all measuring equipment.

They do. The question is, is the error in the measurement system bigger than the 60 nanoseconds or something they found. If it is, this most likely just means they found a particle which is somewhat near the weight of a photon.


PS: Alper, i'd really love you if you'd post the articles of these 2 studies. You'd be my hero

Edited by asrael, 01 October 2011 - 09:46 PM.

[doctorfunk]

Plus, even if it were true, it would mean that neutrinos have a lighter mass than light particles, according to Einstein's e= mc square and it would not mean that we would be able to time travel even if we were to be able to travel faster than 'the speed of light'. Timetravel would require paralel universes and such and the universes would have to be able to 'interact' with eachother, constantly changing fates and such.

WRONG
you don't have to even reach the speed of light to do it. At 0.9c 1s lasts 2.294 'normal' seconds. Reaching speeds like 0.99999999999999999999999c it gets crazy. The closer you get to the speed of light the slower time flows for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPoGVP-wZv8

[Kenshin-Horus]

That's amazing that time actually slows down as you near the speed of light. What only seemed like a short period of time for the guy riding the scooter was actually years for his friends.