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[Sativa]

Hey all...

I checked out this tool and it's a very nice invention for sof2... Congrats for it. Tho it's for sof2 demo only.

I was wondering if it's possible for you guys to create it for the full version as well? The game was fun a few years ago but nowadays there are like at least 2 hackers a server. Help us to get rid of the hackers, at least it will block a lot of them I guess, everything can be bypassed.

Last question. Is there a little tutorial about this tool how it works? I really would like know.

You can contact me at sof2_sativabfk@hotmail.com for a little chat if you want to (intended for the developers only).


A fellow SOF2 oldschool player,
Sativa.

[Button]

why do you think we play demo and not 1.00......

[Sativa]

why do you think we play demo and not 1.00......

Tell me? I have no clue.
Maybe because there are more cheaters at the full version?

[Button]

indd, and in the full community and demo community are many diff

[bing bang blaow]

well, it has been actually tried..but considering the community, it's quite impossible.
Firstly, people mostly want 3rdperson enabled, yet disable shownormals for example. This would mean like blocking shownormals etc all by one, while in demo you just had to block hash cmds since noone 3rds here anyways and no other hash commands are used.
(well..actually you could just force shownjormals etc 0 and if its over 0 fp would close as it does in demo after the sv_cheats 1 abuse..but still :])
Secondly, mods.
People at 1.00 use all those glowshells and basically wouldn't agree to play WITHOUT them. Majority of them. Few exceptions such as the people from CsT etc(from my expierence), on the other hand they want all pk3 hacks blocked. You realize it would be BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to do both? Block pk3 hacks - cuts off the possibility for having custom shaders and whatsoever, but guess what? ur nice glowshells, lava skins and whatnot use shaders..
Third part being that 1.00 hacks work different than demo, so most of cheat protection system would have to be basically recoded or w/e...and you do realize that FP is basically made by 1 person? (well of course xillax helps him and some people have reported some bugs etc but most of work, i think shifty does it all)..now think would you do it for game you dont even play. not to mention he doesn't get anything from it.

[Sativa]

indd, and in the full community and demo community are many diff

I played demo a few years ago, I don't know any difference. You tell me.
All I hope is, this tool will be available for full version players as well. It would really help a lot!

It's sad there are being made such nice mods for demo and gold, except V1.0
Good stuff:
-We only use RPMPro or RPM - Adminmod (serverside)
-Hide 'n Seek - Demolition mod (you have to pay for it, come on this is bullshit?!)
-Nerofix (high detailed textures of the current ones)

Worst things ever made:
-Skin/Texture/Sound/Model Mods
It's possible these mods include glowing player models - this is a pain the ass since it's IMPOSSIBLE to hide now, everyone can spot you in dark spots because of the glowing player skins.
Those mods can include faulty code and result in wallhacks at certain spots, well it's going out of control in my opinion.

I can keep going on.


So it's time to call some help...

[bing bang blaow]

read my post.
as I stated, 1.00 people won't even bother using FP when it blocks those lava skins etc.

[Sativa]

well, it has been actually tried..but considering the community, it's quite impossible.
Firstly, people mostly want 3rdperson enabled, yet disable shownormals for example. This would mean like blocking shownormals etc all by one, while in demo you just had to block hash cmds since noone 3rds here anyways and no other hash commands are used.
(well..actually you could just force shownjormals etc 0 and if its over 0 fp would close as it does in demo after the sv_cheats 1 abuse..but still :])
Secondly, mods.
People at 1.00 use all those glowshells and basically wouldn't agree to play WITHOUT them. Majority of them. Few exceptions such as the people from CsT etc(from my expierence), on the other hand they want all pk3 hacks blocked. You realize it would be BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to do both? Block pk3 hacks - cuts off the possibility for having custom shaders and whatsoever, but guess what? ur nice glowshells, lava skins and whatnot use shaders..
Third part being that 1.00 hacks work different than demo, so most of cheat protection system would have to be basically recoded or w/e...and you do realize that FP is basically made by 1 person? (well of course xillax helps him and some people have reported some bugs etc but most of work, i think shifty does it all)..now think would you do it for game you dont even play. not to mention he doesn't get anything from it.

Okay at least I could give it a try since no one gives a damn about it any more.
Btw I didn't notice your post because I was typing my own story hehe.

[bing bang blaow]

ive played 1.00 myself for a while, trial at cst and offered spot at hss, knowing people in 1.00..it wouldn't work. atleast in infiltration. didnt play ctf tho

[shift]

fp tut is at caserun.com/fairplay

[XILLAX]

We would make one for 1.00 if the 1.00 community wasn't so torn about the "definition of cheating".

We did check this shit out for a while, but some wanted 3rd, others no 3rd, some wanted pk3 skins, sound packs etc, while other didn't.

Demo was simple because we were able to just block everything, since that's how demo is in default anyway(need a fixed .exe to use pk3s).

[maniman]

If you got the same mentality as in demo (counter-strike like) its possible to create a second community. For those who want clean play. Like we got demobase (anti-cheat) and notag (mod users)

It could maybe be done if you get like atleast 100 users who want to use the SOF2 1.0 fp so shifty can think about it if its worth his time

[Sativa]

Look... Must of us are still playing first, it's leading tho.

Wouldn't it be nice to start creating it for servers which are only allowing first person play (third can be disabled trough RPMPro or RPM mod)? Anyways.... :

IDEA 1
For example: eveyone who want's to play on a certain server using the new "anti cheat tool" needs to run a file which creates a little dump of the folder structure which will be sent a small console of an admin which is running it as his desktop, this will show suspicious files for sure

IDEA2
The tool blocks suspicious files like: .dll files etc + blocks unwanted commands (hash etc)

IDEA 3
It would be nice if the console of the admin could take a picture on his machine during a scrim? If this was already possible, we already could exclude wallhack.
Third can be disabled via a servermod called RPMPro or RPM, we will force every player at our server to use it (rpmclients only allowed command).
Last problem would be aimbot, hash commands (possible to block it since you guys just have proven it) and .PK3 mods (can be viewed trough the screenshot option? - problem: people can rename their files)


All these ideas in one would jut be great!
This is a start right?

[bing bang blaow]

yo just delete or edit rpm lil bit, enter rpm server where 3rd disabled and hf 3rding

[XILLAX]

If we made fairplay 1.00, it would be the same as on demo, no 3rd, no extra pk3s(including Soundpacks and Glow/Lava Skins), no hash commands, no .dll's, renames all non stock files(exe dll pk3) in the users SoF2 folder, lockdown other commands such as r_primitives, com_maxfps (max 200, so no 333 fps bug)

Would also require proof it will be used.

[bing bang blaow]

btw, ppl got liek different size sof2s in 1.00..for example i got some texture folders deleted and save like 600mb while it affects nothing in my game.
now on 1.00 clan sites i seen like 100 different dl links with diff sizes o,o
wat i mean is whole 1.00 gotta basically agree on which dl link to use in order to all have same size of pk3 files etc since IF fp is gonna get to 1.00 one of first thing its gng to do is check the sizes and make sure u got correct...

[zangiiq]

demo > full..
just ALL FULL MOVE TO DEMO!!
^^

[madturk]

leave full and come to demo tell ur friends to register @ db also

[FreeStyle]

yea why bother play full you got all here