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[azzy]

ur kinda wrong tbh...

if u have 3 of a kind 3s there

its perfectly good play to try and get it all in, because he will call an all in with A 9 , A 3, A K, or even A Q there and he will have those cards alot more then he will have AA, so basically do it a 100 times, u have 3 of a kind on that flop, and he has AA, A 9 , A 3, AK, AQ,... (he calls mostly always with those holdings) ull win more then ull lose, so its not bad played, having 3 of a kind and running into a bigger 3 of a kind, is just bad luck really, its like flush vs flush...

Any other 3 of a kind would beat your ass + flush would beat ur ass + straight would beat ur ass (tho there werent any straight chances, there was a flush chance tho)

For playmoney i wouldve played this hand as well, but for real money I think I might have folded if the other guy called.

[fastcolt]

I just did the math to see if it is profitable or not



As you can see, (guessing that they went all in on flop)

33 will win here 80% of the time, folding this, is just plain retarded....


btw, you can download pokerstove for free, its good to learn things like this...

u say any other 3 of a kind, lol, that are only 2 possible holdings pocket 9s and pocket Aces
there wasnt a flush on the flop ( thinking theyyd go all in on flop) also, if at those stakes someone goes all in on the flop with just a flush draw, hes a complete noob, because if u have 4 flush cards on flop u only have like 30ish % chance of winning it... and straight isnt even possible, so why be scared of that?

the only real thing he loses too are Aces and 9s, ok that are 2 hands out of 600+ possible cardcombinations he could hold...

like i said 33 wins here 80%+ of the time -,-

[azzy]

I don't rely on some shit program, it would give 100% to the AA with a set on the flop and still he lost to set of 3's on the river lol, no offense

[fastcolt]

4% chance to spike the last 3 on the river or the turn on that flop so 4% chances of winning vs AA, on that flop , with 33

so it doesnt says 100% AA xD

its really one of the best programs out there tbh...

and it defines ranges so nicely, and gives u a good idea of the range ur up against, but its ok, if you dont agree with me...

[uMii]

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 410593
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

rid0nkeykong (CO): $14.30
Macean (BTN): $14.45
Hero (SB): $15.20
sobiech29 (BB): $8.90
mistermicu (UTG): $10.15
PAZOUT (MP): $8.90

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K Q
1 fold, PAZOUT calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, sobiech29 calls $0.40, PAZOUT calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.50) T 4 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, sobiech29 bets $0.80, PAZOUT raises to $1.90, Hero raises to $3.40, sobiech29 calls $2.60, PAZOUT raises to $8.40 all in, Hero calls $5, sobiech29 folds

Turn: ($21.70) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($21.70) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $21.70
Hero shows K Q (a flush, King high)
PAZOUT shows 7 8 (a flush, Ten high)
Hero wins $20.65
(Rake: $1.05)


not a nice hand, but it was funny.. that retard went all-in after i reraised him on the flop

but a straightflush draw, would be really sick ;p

Edited by uMii, 07 December 2009 - 12:59 PM.

[fastcolt]

n1 well played, i wouldnt check the flop tho, but here it paid off, he mustve thought u didnt have a flush but like T T T, and therefor raised u after ur check and then got sucked in

either way, i wouldnt say he played it totally wrong, u played it right IMO. u got all his moneys, and won the hand, not by luck, but by making right stuff, i think its right..

at the other hand, he had 78s, so suited connectors, this is a rather basic mistake, suited connectors are a good hand to open up pots in rather late position in 6max cash, but not to call raises with...

so there he made the first mistake and got suckd in, and paid for it.

well played imo. i wouldve played somewhat same as the 78 guy, or u lol, so yeah, u had card advantage obviously /p

[muumi]

Nice Jaron, didn't get to see a royal flush ever before, I had four of a kind 3 times myself tho.

@ Muumi's last hand, how much luck did you have there, wow lol... I would have folded a pair of 3 even if you already had three of a kind on the flop, if the guy raises you you know something is wrong, its not logically he would raise if he wouldn't have aces, infact he had three of a kind aces ;d you only beat him on the river, he must have been so mad.

Well at that hand i was 21of22 at the tourney and like 3 gets rewarded, because it was a satellite. I had only like 11x bb and all had folded before me so it was blind vs blind when 33 is ok hand to try. I went pre-flop all in, my attempt was to steal but i would maybe still have a chance if he calls i thought. Well he called and showed his AA and i was like oh no. Flops first card was 3 and i was like 'yay' but then the ace came and i was bout to shut down the table but... Yea I was lucky on this hand but i needed to go all in becoz there were only blinds left and i had to double-up to stay alive. lucky this time ive had some hands where oppotent suckouts me like that too.

[muumi]

Ill post some more sick hands so u guys have smth to talk about.

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This one is so sick, we went preflop all in im the one with AA




Just wow how sick this can be, im the one with KK we went preflop all-in :|

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Edited by muumi, 09 December 2009 - 06:09 PM.

[uMii]

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 414084
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $9.85
BTN: $10.00
Hero (SB): $10.80
BB: $10.00
UTG: $10.15

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 8 7
UTG raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20) 8 8 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70, BB folds

Turn: ($2.60) T (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $4.50, UTG calls $2.50

River: ($11.60) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.40, UTG raises to $4.55 all in, Hero calls $1.15

[Inou]

This is 100nl Cash Game. I won the hand by check-3betting on the flop but I don't think it was the right move.


Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: 1 ( $162.88 USD )
Seat 2: 2 ( $108.25 USD )
Seat 3: 3 ( $109.50 USD )
Seat 4: Hero ( $101.50 USD )
Seat 8: XXX ( $18.20 USD )
Seat 9: XXX ( $98.40 USD )
Hero posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
XXX posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qd Ac ]
XXX folds
1 raises [$4.00 USD]
2 calls [$4.00 USD]
3 calls [$4.00 USD]
Hero raises [$17.50 USD]
XXX folds
1 calls [$14.00 USD]
2 calls [$14.00 USD]
3 calls [$14.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 9s, Qc ]
Hero ???

We just got around one orbit on this table, all unkown players to me. My squeeze shouldve been bigger obviously but I figured there would only be 1 caller, still I shouldve gone to 22-24 dollars as oppose to 18.

I find it difficult to estimate what hands villains will call with pre flop, especially villain 1. The others I see them calling with low-med pockets and SC, which they all miss on this flop. TT+ somebody could pre shove because of all the dead money, basically Im ahead here in most cases.
Should I make a small bet or call every shove unless all villains go loose. Do I Induce a shove form JT or T9 if I do so. Check -raise because someone would try and steal this pot?
The flop is just confusing because I wont get much value from lesser hands but checking means I might have to fold my better hand seeing my implied odds lose vs my effective odds in such a case.

What would you guys do?

[Inou]

By the way Umi, dont just post your easy hands. You've posted hitting nuts on the flop and letting the villain hang himself which is quite easy on those stakes/hands. Post difficult decisions so I can give you some feedback or plain my thoughts on it. You and neither us are learning from those hands.

[uMii]

By the way Umi, dont just post your easy hands. You've posted hitting nuts on the flop and letting the villain hang himself which is quite easy on those stakes/hands. Post difficult decisions so I can give you some feedback or plain my thoughts on it. You and neither us are learning from those hands.

np man, but it was 2 beauty that last ss..

Edited by uMii, 09 December 2009 - 11:39 PM.

[fastcolt]

TBFH id either check/fold here

OR

id bet pretty small, trying to go to a cheap showdown , it works alot for me, i bet so small, and most of the time when they have a big hand, they make the mistakes of actually not reraising but just calling my bets because they dont want to risk losing me out of the pot....

my point of view: When in doubt, just give up on the hand especially in cashgames, theres always the next hand...

[uMii]

wow @ you're so screwed if someone else had KT
anyways, even though I'm not a pokerwhore like fastcolt, that's what I do the most also, betting small to check what others do
but in this situation, fastcolt > me, listening to him is like asking a crackjunk how to use crack, u can trust it

if someone reraise u preflop, believe me you wont call it with KT -.-'

or you must be really a fool 2 do that.

[uMii]

what about the opposite of bluffin? (do I need to explain it?)

stop bsing turqua

[uMii]

bsing?
you just do small bets until u reach a point where the opponent thinks he can't go back anymore

if the flop is J9Q and u reraise it's pretty obvious u have KT, but if u wait and hero does some bets because he is "sure" he is gonna win it(with a pair of queens), hero will be like "OMG NOEZ I'Z GONNA LOSE SO MUCH MONEY I KAN'T FOLD, IT'Z BLUFFIN, I'Z SURE. I.R. BABOON". Ok this sounded like a mentally retarded person, but you got my point I hope.

its real money ffs kiddo.
dude for real, if u get reraised preflop with a kt, you would call it? if u say yes, i wont talk 2 you about poker.