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Look before I am going to say what I am saying. I want to point out that I know Dawid for a long time, but I will still as objective possible about this matter.
We all know what has been playing in the CST vs dpg thread, about the refs and etc., so I don't want to re-explain it. But this was my reaction on it.
Aight guys, I can't say gg or bg since I wasn't there. But the match has been played and the dmg has been done.
Apparently it did not go as everyone wanted.
But when arranging this match you can pick your own referee's. Like I said I wasn't there and don't know what the refs did. If they have done bad they shouldn't. But you did not object when choosing these refs, and they wasted their time reffing your match so we should be thankful at least.
Look my point is, maybe it went bad this time. But it's your own responsibility to arrange the match, set dates, and pick proper refs (maybe some demo guys who also applied like Folly etc..). Anyway try to learn from this and look to the future, that you guys lost from CST doesn't mean it ends here. 1st and 2nd place go through, so use the experience and GL HF.
Does some1 have the power to lock this topic? It's GAME OVER.
As you can see I, administrator of the cup, did not blame either the refs or the demo guys, and tried to solve it with care. I said the refs shouldn't have misbehaved IF they did, and also the demo guys should take a bit more responsibility. Don't forget that at this point I know the refs and CST for a couple of years, and I did not take a side.
After that I have nicely asked if the topic could be closed, which I wish could have done myself. Some posts later another administrator, Slizer, asked if the forum could be closed without any other single comment.
Than Ze closed the topic, just before giving the blame on the refs. This is where it totally got fired up.
What I do not understand, is why the main rule that is comprehended by the whole world was not used before showing rules that are created in this topic. CST said that it was all fine, the refs did not/abuse chat. And dpg said they did.
With all respect Ze, but you weren't there so you can't know what exactly happened. Therefore I would say not guilty until proved guilty (main rule).
Anyway this lead to Dawid taking it personal, and getting pissed off. (I am still trying to be objective here) But I think he has all the right to be pissed off. In my opinion an administrator should have spoken more wisely. In my opinion the topic should just have been closed (also suggested by Slizer) without further suggestive comments.
I understand the fact that Ze might know and trust some guys from demo thought (I am not saying he talked or does trust any one of them, just suggesting). I've played that krazzerous guy today on full along with some other guys that Steven brought. Also Dawid was there. The scrim went extremely smooth, we even gave them some tips. Anyway he seemed like a nice guy, so I understand IF Ze is friends with either one of these guys and he talked with them and took their word.
But the same Dawid is for us. He is also a respected and a kind guy on the full version. If you handle him with respect he gives it back. Anyway, what I am pointing out it, it's words vs words probably of two kind guys. But nothing can be proved.
Therefore I support Dawid in this issue.
I find that many people misbehaved. The refs, people from cst, people from dpg. Neiti actually had a very mature comment. But I also find a it a fact that an admin misbehaved and that this is not right.
PS.
That Dawid is a kind guy on full can be proven, just make a poll and let them vote. (<-- non-essential, but just pointing out)
Edited by BariS, 17 March 2010 - 11:49 PM.
