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[Museki]

Indeed already hated by many italians (cuz of him playing for italy) and now he gets his own fans against him, way to go mate.

[katana.]

the game is over muse, he didnt have a brilliant moment, barcelona played like poop. so he should of been subbed, messi is usually ''happy'' when he plays, but in that match you could see him be frustrated wich almost never happens, and i speak of experience, if im in a good mood and play while having fun i play better, doubt you even touched a ball once in ur life, well maybe a tennis ball ;x and attitude has nothing to do with what you perform on the field, stop listening to the commentators and make ur own analyses, if an attacker doesnt get to dribble shoot play w.e its not cuz of him, its cuz of the whole team, you all think its really easy so you point fingers at a single player and blame him

get real

[drnknmnky]

ye well im a barca fan.. but i gotta admit.. barca played very very bad..

i think its the bus trip or smt.. coz i never saw xavi and messi playin soo bad.. wtf ( didnt saw xavi even once in the 1st half lol)

but still nice win from inter .. and ye at the end with balloteli was fokt up .. but hes a kid.. i can understand him.. if more then 70.000 peeps are yellin at him and call him a black person and poop.. i would do the same.. and i hate all those comments on him.. that hes a rtard.. he needs a punch in his face blabla.. but mark my words.. balloteli will become 1 of the best later.. coz that kid got some talent.. but ye he got some attitude probs.. but i think its coz of inter.. he doenst feel well there.. i think that primera or premier would fit nice to him.. still cant wait for the return.. i think it will be 3 - 0 zo barca.. or 3 - 1 or smt.. ooooooh cant wait

[Museki]

the game is over muse, he didnt have a brilliant moment, barcelona played like poop. so he should of been subbed, messi is usually ''happy'' when he plays, but in that match you could see him be frustrated wich almost never happens, and i speak of experience, if im in a good mood and play while having fun i play better, doubt you even touched a ball once in ur life, well maybe a tennis ball ;x and attitude has nothing to do with what you perform on the field, stop listening to the commentators and make ur own analyses, if an attacker doesnt get to dribble shoot play w.e its not cuz of him, its cuz of the whole team, you all think its really easy so you point fingers at a single player and blame him

get real

And i lol'd again.
So if players are not in a happy mood or get slightly fustrated you should sub them? ohdear maybe xavi was getting a little fustrated aswell or valdez cuz he already got beaten 3 times, let's sub them, only happy people should be on the field, wihi! urrrrrrm not!
Game was NOT over, barca was trying to make another goal, and since inter gave them very little space, having a player like messi who can do something genious every time he gets a ball, even if he's played 85 sucky minutes before, is very handy then... U wanted to sub messi for henry, the player who needs a lot of space, more the kinda striker u'd use to counterattack?
And it has fcking everything to do with attitude, they way he just strolled on the field, not even bothered to try to defend in position, being careless in passing, shooting from 35meters instead of keeping the ball in the team. He went for individual succes, it didn't work out, he got fustrated and started acting like a five year old on the field, i'm surprised he wasn't crying.
But yeah i don't know poop about football cuz i play tennis nowadays ... Still follow every league (premier, bundesliga, primera div, serie a, belgian football with some livematches in stadiums and dutch football).
Why you think i'm just listening to commentators (besides the fact they are usually right)... You and i watched the game on different channels so you are clueless on what my commentators said, nice argument mate.
The fact that you would put messi on the bench mustv been cuz some commentator said that, i don't know why you'd say that else, it's just ridiculous.

[Ibi]

INTER RAPED BARpoopLONA !!!

[blue]

Ibrahimovic should have been replaced by Bojan or possibly Henry.

[katana.]

And i lol'd again.
So if players are not in a happy mood or get slightly fustrated you should sub them? ohdear maybe xavi was getting a little fustrated aswell or valdez cuz he already got beaten 3 times, let's sub them, only happy people should be on the field, wihi! urrrrrrm not!

Game was NOT over, barca was trying to make another goal, and since inter gave them very little space, having a player like messi who can do something genious every time he gets a ball, even if he's played 85 sucky minutes before, is very handy then... U wanted to sub messi for henry, the player who needs a lot of space, more the kinda striker u'd use to counterattack?

And it has fcking everything to do with attitude, they way he just strolled on the field, not even bothered to try to defend in position, being careless in passing, shooting from 35meters instead of keeping the ball in the team. He went for individual succes, it didn't work out, he got fustrated and started acting like a five year old on the field, i'm surprised he wasn't crying.

But yeah i don't know poop about football cuz i play tennis nowadays ...

Again you act like you know what your talking about, where did i say being frustrated (even though this is a normal sub choice if you actually played football you would know) is the reason he should be subbed, it was cause he couldnt do poop the whole match.. but your living in your own bubble thinkin he will score even after the game has finished 24 hours ago lol...he should of been subbed. period, or you still waiting for him to score?

Again who said henry? even though henry is better then you give him credit for but there are numerous things he could of done by subbin messi for someone else.

He was an attacker, his job is to keep the defenders of barca on his toes, no need for him to defend genuis there were 9 other guys who did it for him. careless passing? he barely got the ball and when he did he took a shot from far away cuz he was ALONE in front with 3 defenders on his ass, the ball just bounced right infront of him so he took a shot, keep trying.

Finally some wise words from you.

Edited by ShaoliN, 21 April 2010 - 07:40 PM.

[Museki]

Again you act like you know what your talking about, where did i say being frustrated (even though this is a normal sub choice if you actually played football you would know) is the reason he should be subbed, it was cause he couldnt do poop the whole match.. but your living in your own bubble thinkin he will score even after the game has finished 24 hours ago lol...he should of been subbed. period, or you still waiting for him to score?

Again who said henry? even though henry is better then you give him credit for but there are numerous things he could of done by subbin messi for someone else.

He was an attacker, his job is to keep the defenders of barca on his toes, no need for him to defend genuis there were 9 other guys who did it for him. careless passing? he barely got the ball and when he did he took a shot from far away cuz he was ALONE in front with 3 defenders on his ass, the ball just bounced right infront of him so he took a shot, keep trying.

Finally some wise words from you.

You just don't sub a genious when u need something genious, but that's just me. And yes i'm living in my own bubble, only one thinking messi can decide a match at anytime... nice meaningless catchphrase ur trying on me there.
About our supersub now coughcough
Well if ur walking 15meters away from ur own 16 and the opponent has the ball, u can atleast expect from him to defend in position or try and cap the ball since he's obviously the most fit player then. But no he just walks, being angry cuz fans are being mad at him. Gave the ball away easily numerous times (not cuz he was alone, cuz there were easy options to pass, it's just being careless, nonchalant, ...) When ur being subbed this late in the game it's expected of you to atleast defend a little, certainly when it's 3-1. He came in from Milito (i think?), he was an attacker, he defended whole match... I seriously doubt Mourinho told him to focus on attacking only... Modern football is attacking with 10, defending with 10, not ur 9-1 poop. But hey katana, me and the 80000 fans inthere dont know poop about football, ur our the man who knows it all, sorry! He came in brilliantly, did what he was supposed to do, next match i'd let him play the whole 90mins.

Oh and i did play football, just chose tennis after a while, still play football from time to time, some people are good at multiple sports and pick out smthg else than football u kno.

[snugg]

gotta agree with muse on this one. I mean, it was blatantly obvious Balitelli was on there with the wrong attitude, apparently he even makes it publicly known that he supports AC Milan. That's not gonna help anyone increase his popularity when he's playing for arch enemy Inter Milan haha. The last 20 minutes, he was completely worthless and it was mostly caused by his lack of maturity on a mental level.

The fact that Inter Milan had 2 or 3 people focussing on Messi at all times is good, sub him and 1 or 2 extra defenders will become available because they don't need to focus on 1 attacker anymore. Barca deserved another goal at the end, they could have easily gotten a penalty too, but the luck wasn't on their side in the last 20 minutes. Also a little too much relying on organisation and thought once they got inside the 16 box, they shouldve just relied on their impulses when the chances were available in the 16 and shot at the goal as soon as they got the ball. Instead, they tried to pass more and create better opportunities which ofcourse had the opposite effect with so many defenders there.

and katana wtf are u talking about honestly haha . If you play well and score goals, ofcourse your mood will be better, but on that level of international football, mood won't affect performance drastically for the players because otherwise they wouldn't be in those top teams in the first place.

[katana.]

actually he ran his ass off when he came in, chasing the ball etc and he had an attitude towards the crowd and made a rotation with his finger because they all boo'd at him for passing a ball wrong (i think) 5 seconds before he made that shot from far and all cheered him? other then that he tried his best..

[Museki]

actually he ran his ass off when he came in, chasing the ball etc and he had an attitude towards the crowd and made a rotation with his finger because they all boo'd at him for passing a ball wrong (i think) 5 seconds before he made that shot from far and all cheered him? other then that he tried his best..

try mocking.

what match did u see lol? Running? Chasing? What?

[katana.]

And i lol'd again.
So if players are not in a happy mood or get slightly fustrated you should sub them? ohdear maybe xavi was getting a little fustrated aswell or valdez cuz he already got beaten 3 times, let's sub them, only happy people should be on the field, wihi! urrrrrrm not!

Game was NOT over, barca was trying to make another goal, and since inter gave them very little space, having a player like messi who can do something genious every time he gets a ball, even if he's played 85 sucky minutes before, is very handy then... U wanted to sub messi for henry, the player who needs a lot of space, more the kinda striker u'd use to counterattack?

And it has fcking everything to do with attitude, they way he just strolled on the field, not even bothered to try to defend in position, being careless in passing, shooting from 35meters instead of keeping the ball in the team. He went for individual succes, it didn't work out, he got fustrated and started acting like a five year old on the field, i'm surprised he wasn't crying.

But yeah i don't know poop about football cuz i play tennis nowadays ...

Again you act like you know what your talking about, where did i say being frustrated (even though this is a normal sub choice if you actually played football you would know) is the reason he should be subbed, it was cause he couldnt do poop the whole match.. but your living in your own bubble thinkin he will score even after the game has finished 24 hours ago lol...he should of been subbed. period, or you still waiting for him to score?

Again who said henry? even though henry is better then you give him credit for but there are numerous things he could of done by subbin messi for someone else.

He was an attacker, his job is to keep the defenders of barca on his toes, no need for him to defend genuis there were 9 other guys who did it for him. careless passing? he barely got the ball and when he did he took a shot from far away cuz he was ALONE in front with 3 defenders on his ass, the ball just bounced right infront of him so he took a shot, keep trying.

Finally some wise words from you.

READ IT AGAIN MUSE AND TRY AGAIN, same for u snugg ;

Snugg, barcelona didnt deserve a 2nd goal otherwise they would of made one, inter deliberately pulled back, so barca had some more room to build an attack, but they couldnt pull it off, inter played theyre game, barca followed.

Im sorry but talking to two guys who would break in two if a ball remotely even touches them is hilarious
so ima end this here, peace out

[Museki]

Gonna make this a little bit easyer for you, since now you're claiming i haven't read your post well enough.

Again you act like you know what your talking about, where did i say being frustrated (even though this is a normal sub choice if you actually played football you would know) is the reason he should be subbed, it was cause he couldnt do poop the whole match.. but your living in your own bubble thinkin he will score even after the game has finished 24 hours ago lol...he should of been subbed. period, or you still waiting for him to score?

Again who said henry? even though henry is better then you give him credit for but there are numerous things he could of done by subbin messi for someone else.
You just don't sub a genious when u need something genious, but that's just me. And yes i'm living in my own bubble, only one thinking messi can decide a match at anytime... nice meaningless catchphrase ur trying on me there.
snugg:
The fact that Inter Milan had 2 or 3 people focussing on Messi at all times is good, sub him and 1 or 2 extra defenders will become available because they don't need to focus on 1 attacker anymore.

He was an attacker, his job is to keep the defenders of barca on his toes, no need for him to defend genuis there were 9 other guys who did it for him. careless passing? he barely got the ball and when he did he took a shot from far away cuz he was ALONE in front with 3 defenders on his ass, the ball just bounced right infront of him so he took a shot, keep trying.
He came in from Milito (i think?), he was an attacker, he defended whole match... I seriously doubt Mourinho told him to focus on attacking only... Modern football is attacking with 10, defending with 10, not ur 9-1 poop.

Finally some wise words from you.

READ IT AGAIN MUSE AND TRY AGAIN, same for u snugg ;

Snugg, barcelona didnt deserve a 2nd goal otherwise they would of made one, inter deliberately pulled back, so barca had some more room to build an attack, but they couldnt pull it off, inter played theyre game, barca followed.

Im sorry but talking to two guys who would break in two if a ball remotely even touches them is hilarious
so ima end this here, peace out
Oh and i did play football, just chose tennis after a while, still play football from time to time, some people are good at multiple sports and pick out smthg else than football u kno.

Pretty sure i'd still oon ur ass in football but ok, that has nothing to do with this discussion, even if ur still trying to bring it on.
Nice arguments though, saying we would break if we touch a ball, genious, now try with some actual facts.

Basically you can think of messi's game in 2 ways:
Urs: He didn't do create much for himself.
Mine: By constantly having 2/3 interplayers around him he created space for others to play, for instance pedro.

Basically you're rating his perfomance purely individual imo.

Anyway guess we won't come to an agreement about it.



About something else:
Robben being substituted around 80th min of the game. Why? Made me think of Netherlands-Tjechie game, he was creating opportunities, all he did worked out ... only 1-0 which isn't that comforting (they'll probably go through but still).
He just did it to show him who's the boss or smthg, making him less important than he actually was in that game dk... Bastian Schweinsteiger played a good match aswell imo (pranjic and that russian sub aswell)
If Snejder and Robben can stay on this level, the Netherlands might have a chance to get far in the world cup, though it's sad vandervaart sits on the bench this much.

[jet/milkman/duff]

nice @ all

but germans will win dis cup

[Brighty]

Gonna make this a little bit easyer for you, since now you're claiming i haven't read your post well enough.


Basically you can think of messi's game in 2 ways:
Urs: He didn't do create much for himself.
Mine: By constantly having 2/3 interplayers around him he created space for others to play, for instance pedro.

finnaly someone who knows what he's saying.

ppl only look at how a player played and not the tactical thoughts.

and since its a teamsport, its not all about messi..

without the other 10 messi can't win vs 10 players and a goalkeeper.

ofcourse messi is a good player but still doesn't change teh fact that he needs his team.


conclusion: barca played bad and inter played well,

but barca will win in the rematch and will win the CL


EDIT: that's why also messi is better at barca then with Argentina.

he just has a better team with barcelona.

Edited by Brighty, 22 April 2010 - 07:48 AM.

[snugg]

actually, katana, I played football in a club when i was younger. I follow most if not all international top football like CL knockout stages,EC and WC etc.. Just because you have a different opinion (which seems to be the odd one out as well), doesn't mean it's right because you have an image of yourself being a pro football player.

sorry but come on Muse his points make way more sense, and I was thinking exactly the same things as I was watching the match.

Also agree about yesterday. Kind of a lame choice to take Robben off when he was one of the key players for Bayern. After the first goal, both teams kinda stopped trying and seemed satisfied enough with the result, so it was a boring game. It is a shame Ribery made a tackle like that, he didn't mean to hit the guy right on his ankle, but it still happened, so the red was deserved. However, if he would've stayed on Bayern could have created more opportunities because he was playing really good those first 30 minutes. Also, gg to Van Buyten. Played very efficient and didn't come close to making any errors of some sort.

[Brighty]

you guys talk about bayern but its still barca vs inter topic.

make a new topic and continue bayner stories over there

[Museki]

actually, katana, I played football in a club when i was younger. I follow most if not all international top football like CL knockout stages,EC and WC etc.. Just because you have a different opinion (which seems to be the odd one out as well), doesn't mean it's right because you have an image of yourself being a pro football player.

sorry but come on Muse his points make way more sense, and I was thinking exactly the same things as I was watching the match.

Also agree about yesterday. Kind of a lame choice to take Robben off when he was one of the key players for Bayern. After the first goal, both teams kinda stopped trying and seemed satisfied enough with the result, so it was a boring game. It is a shame Ribery made a tackle like that, he didn't mean to hit the guy right on his ankle, but it still happened, so the red was deserved. However, if he would've stayed on Bayern could have created more opportunities because he was playing really good those first 30 minutes. Also, gg to Van Buyten. Played very efficient and didn't come close to making any errors of some sort.

defensively he did play a good game, but his passing was just horrible, always went for the long ball which lead nowhere most of the times.

[insane]

Inter was clearly the better team, but barca will overrun them @ camp nou, especially because inniesta will be able to play.

[Brighty]

Inter was clearly the better team, but barca will overrun them @ camp nou, especially because inniesta will be able to play.

another smart guy

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