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[max]

My reason for not releasing the mod source code is fairly simple. It is doomed to lead to abuse. A good example of this was the release of NVMod's source code.

Also, I'm excited to see the mod that's better than mine. So far I've merely seen imitations. Is this an imitation mod as well? Who is developing it?

[wirdo]

My reason for not releasing the mod source code is fairly simple. It is doomed to lead to abuse. A good example of this was the release of NVMod's source code.

Also, I'm excited to see the mod that's better than mine. So far I've merely seen imitations. Is this an imitation mod as well? Who is developing it?

"So far I've merely seen imitations." not sure which mods you're talking about (if it's the 1fx mod, they're not doing that bad, boeman is a smart guy (would be a gd point if they remove the fake ping shizzle)

The new mod that is running right now, might be not as good as the 2k3 yet, but the compmode looks even better (ratio's being kept during the roundswitch)
The mod will be released the public once the developer completed it.

I might have done the same thing if i was in max position, but i would've atleast moved to a decent datacenter where every player has a decent ping.
I only hear people complaining about high pings (specially from Poland)

[Mr. Mike]

D@WID!!!

[wirdo]

D@WID!!!

Indeed good example

[max]

"So far I've merely seen imitations." not sure which mods you're talking about (if it's the 1fx mod, they're not doing that bad, boeman is a smart guy (would be a gd point if they remove the fake ping shizzle)

The new mod that is running right now, might be not as good as the 2k3 yet, but the compmode looks even better (ratio's being kept during the roundswitch)
The mod will be released the public once the developer completed it.

Keeping the ratio's for the next round is easy to implement, but was rejected by the community when I proposed it. So I don't consider that an improvement. I don't want to sound cocky or whatever but after all I came up with most of these ideas (e.g. automatic competition mode system). That's why I call most other mods which use my ideas imitations. The 1fx mod is the greatest example of this, since they use the exact same syntax for messages; have the exact same "players" layout; have the exact same "stats" layout; use the "!" admin command shortcut, et cetera. So much for innovation.

Edited by max, 31 December 2010 - 12:13 AM.

[Mr. Mike]

yea smart cause ppl know how to use it. 1fx sucks tho..

[Mr. Postman]

Keeping the ratio's for the next round is easy to implement, but was rejected by the community when I proposed it. So I don't consider that an improvement. I don't want to sound cocky or whatever but after all I came up with most of these ideas (e.g. automatic competition mode system). That's why I call most other mods which use my ideas imitations. The 1fx mod is the greatest example of this, since they use the exact same syntax for messages; have the exact same "players" layout; have the exact same "stats" layout; use the "!" admin command shortcut, et cetera. So much for innovation.

That was the purpose of it. Create a freely available replica of yours because you refuse to release it. If you released it we probably wouldn't even be on SoF2 anymore. People shouldn't be bound to a GSP because they appear to have a Mod superior versus others. It should be because you offer the best servers available - something which you do not.

It is an imitation Mod at the moment but that's likely to change. Both Henkie and me have been very limited to put actual time in the Mod itself, that's why we haven't included our Class project yet (link). We will though, the plans remain on the table for somewhere next year.

[dvz]

Sorry but v1 servers are even worse than 2k3. I3D.net \ lowpings are superior to both even though my ping there is 100 compare to 75(2k3) and 30(1fx lol). Real ping is shown

Also I dont think the popularity of 2k3 would go down if they release the mod. only 2-3 clans would prolly rent some quality server and rest wouldnt bother to look into it cause they're so used to 2k3, but lowpings and i3d got only the old RPM 0.7 RPM which is garbage nowadays..

Edited by dvz, 31 December 2010 - 06:29 PM.

[Mr. Postman]

V1servers are worse than 2k3 servers. They would provide us sponsorship in exchange for our Mod AND fake pings. That's why we're sponsored by i3D as of today! Legal real pings and a proper server!

I agree though, the popularity of their game servers wouldn't go down. I don't see why they're not releasing it anyway.

[dvz]

Then why wirdo has got some guy who's developing a new RPM if they can just get 1fx's and improve it?

I dont know if it belongs here but if u could fix at 1fx\i3d servers rpm that admin commands would work also if its typed with caps lock. !CA dont work for exmaple

[XILLAX]

Maybe when wirdo was posting about his guy, he was meaning them and didn't want to say it until it was official.


Boeman, do you guys have any idea of when 1fx mod will be ready to be released to the public?


P.s. Good Job moving away from v1servers, they are terrible and their server is insecure. + blade is too immature/stupid to run a decent company.

[Mr. Postman]

Then why wirdo has got some guy who's developing a new RPM if they can just get 1fx's and improve it?

I think the new guy's still developing. We just got in today though.

I dont know if it belongs here but if u could fix at 1fx\i3d servers rpm that admin commands would work also if its typed with caps lock. !CA dont work for exmaple

This has been fixed in the 0.55 release which was uploaded today!

Boeman, do you guys have any idea of when 1fx mod will be ready to be released to the public?


P.s. Good Job moving away from v1servers, they are terrible and their server is insecure. + blade is too immature/stupid to run a decent company.

We're not sure yet, we want the Mod to be in a good shape! We're still looking for BETA testers (which will get the full mod, which can be publicly used) so if you're interested you're welcome to drop me a PM here/on 1fx. forums.

I agree on the v1servers story. When we first got back at SoF2 v1 it was a good deal. It's not anymore and I'm glad we found i3D.

[dvz]

That made sense.. lol

They are leading server company because they have the best RPM. other companies can make equal RPM and additionally run it on a better server which is fantastic.

[Mr. Postman]

They are the best because they got best performance on the servers. Just becuase 1 person in hss lags doesnt mean it sucks for all.

Scrimmed at a 1d server (hss?) and it sucked, both the lagspikes and the actuall rpm on the server

Scrimmed at 1fx and dont let me start talk about the lag, it run smoothly until u are in a fight

Scrimmed at v1 server and they died, and i understand why

hej

That's pretty much the same you know.

[Mr. Postman]

ye but 1fx is good in the server 1fx public but when u scrim at no escp u lag like hell

1fx is better than v1 servers so if its same u have improved

No Escape was hosted by v1servers. That's where the lag came from. If you mean to say that our previous 1fx. server (also hosted by v1servers) lagged less than the No Escape server then that's impossible. The Competition Mode I developed takes 0.01% more of the resources, as proven many times both locally and hosted on other providers their servers.

[wirdo]

And indeed someone else is developing the mod that i was talking about, i had no clue that we were going to sponsor 1fx.
Still (gerard) the developer of the mod that is running on hss did a quite good job as well, and when the bugs are fixed it would be a great mod for a warserver.

It's always an option to be able to provide 2 mods instead of one.

All the mods running these days are imitations of the 2k3 mod, i consider that as a good thing

About v1servers... there is not much to say about them.

[dvz]

No niclas i3d is simply better than 2k3 considering both run proper RPM. In 2k3 my ping is 75 and I feel more laggy than at i3d with 95-100. That has always been the diff between 2k3 and lowpings too.