Before we start discussing over which clan is the better one, please tell me what do you take into consideration when doing that?
Are you saying id is better because of the last war played? That's not true, too small of a sample size.
Is star-elite better than id because, as far as I know(maybe it's my selective memory speaking here), we've won you more times than you won us as long as we take current time frame into consideration when both clans became sort of active again. No, too small of a sample size + many other factors to consider.
Now what next? The amount of total wars played; amount of wars won against wars lost - following that logic c4(I don't even have to check it up, I just assume it and im pretty sure im correct) wins in all areas, over the long term they probably have the biggest amount of wars played and im pretty sure their winratio is also good. just because you won all of your first ten wars and then died with ur 100% winratio doesn't make you better than c4 because they've lost wars here and there. lol@angel implying that playing the finals will determine which of the clans is the better one. are you fucking serious?

even if you win this and next 3 cups c4 has proved to be way more consistent.
also, since we have no neutral match statistics, naturally data will be inaccurate, thus once again we really can't compare jack shit. everyone knows that war result topics or even clan-sites are most likely inaccurate representation of the reality. and everyone knows this, so posting the war we lost really makes me laugh because it's not like we are trying to come across as the clan that never loses wars

everyone knows that everyone loses wars, thanks for stating the obvious. also, do you get bothered when someone does that to your war results topic? most likely no, same applies here. not sure what you were trying to achieve with that but at least it brought a little smile on my face that you found it that important
so really, stop this retarded "x is better than y" because you literally have no basis to present that as a fact, it's just personal opinion. for me, se is better than id, for you id>se, and that's perfectly fine. if you sincerely think there's a way to actually prove that id is better than se or the other way around, hit me up. i mean, yeah there is, play ∞ wars in equal conditions with the same lineup...except thats not gonna happen
Edited by bing bang blaow, 27 February 2013 - 01:03 AM.