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Blue [Case closed]
#61
Posted 17 October 2010 - 03:19 PM
And even if we close our eyes and play pretend, there's pretty clear "evidence" of him being "guilty".
In any case you're sending a clear message of what kind of a clan you are.
edit: Oh wow it's great how you try to bring up international laws to this matter... hello hello anybody home, the real world is calling! Next try looking up a law about recording in a game and we can take it to the court.
#62
Posted 17 October 2010 - 03:22 PM
yup, that's us.How about we factor in common sense to this? Though I know it's a lot to ask from this "community" of ours.
And even if we close our eyes and play pretend, there's pretty clear "evidence" of him being "guilty".
In any case you're sending a clear message of what kind of a clan you are.
tbh i've used phil's name and projects name already in wars, so i don't see ur "evidence" of him being "guilty" being that "clear".



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#63
Posted 17 October 2010 - 03:26 PM
at a current time (17. oct 2010; 18:25 gmt+2) the only person who has uised the name cC. Pedro is blueyup, that's us.
tbh i've used phil's name and projects name already in wars, so i don't see ur "evidence" of him being "guilty" being that "clear".
how about that?
#64
Posted 17 October 2010 - 03:27 PM
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#65
Posted 17 October 2010 - 03:30 PM
Blue uploaded his own screenshots showing he was playing as Pedro in that war. Are you honestly saying blue justyup, that's us.
tbh i've used phil's name and projects name already in wars, so i don't see ur "evidence" of him being "guilty" being that "clear".
a) happened to know that you played the war against aMeX without it being on your site
b ) just by pure coincidence happened to ask for the screenshots from Pedro and decided to post it in the topic to taunt them
and of course all things combined
c) it was pure coincidence that you were using some unknown player and by pure coincidence he used blue's nick (Pedro) and by pure coincidence ...
If it was someone else you shouldn't have any problem knowing who he was. If he wasn't recording you shouldn't have any problem admitting he didn't record and get it over with. Or do you have something else to hide?
Why does this have to be such a big deal? If he didn't record he didn't record and that's that. I can't fathom why you need to go to such lengths to cover for him.
Though I have to say that it's good to see that clanspirit among you, I just wish you didn't show it in such a miniscule thing.
edit: add rocket's post to all that
#66
Guest_forgy._*
Posted 17 October 2010 - 03:41 PM
And what is this, "innocence until proven guilty" bullshit being put out here? Is demobase a fucking government? Like ze said, god didn't make these rules, admins did. In any case, blue has already been proven guilty. In real life, if you want to bring real life into this with innocence until proven guilty nonsense, people have records of their felons, arrests, etc that follow them for the rest of their lives.
Edited by forgy., 17 October 2010 - 03:43 PM.
#67
Posted 17 October 2010 - 03:55 PM
We understand you find us sad, stupid or whatever else there is to it, but you aren't being much better by always implying so.
The rules are simple, no IP screenshot or fp_check screenshot = no proof.
Blue posted screenshots with name cC. Pedro highlighted.
Looking up Blue's FairPlay guid shows names such as cC. Pedro, cC. Harmless Pedro.
Conclusion: All this proves is that Blue played using those names and that those screenshots were taken by cC. Pedro.. nowhere do these things prove that Blue was actually playing at the time of the war.
To Yanko: It's not that we're saying those A-B-C points, it's more that those are possibilities.
No proof = no bust, it's that easy isn't it?
I don't know exactly what Blue has been up to but I couldn't care less either. If you want to "bust" Blue, make sure you do it the way it's supposed to be.
Edited by joeypapier, 17 October 2010 - 03:56 PM.
#68
Posted 17 October 2010 - 04:06 PM
I just don't understand how people have the nerve to say things aren't how they are based on some vague rules.
It's pretty clear that a demo isn't going to show up in any case. Personally I don't care how it gets handled from "DB point of view" but maybe it's better to go by the written rules for now. It still doesn't change the fact that it was him playing and people should make their own conclusions from that and the way cC handles this.
#69
Posted 17 October 2010 - 04:19 PM
"XILLAX is my god, and he is the high king of all sof2. Furthermore, I want him to make babies with my sister and/or mother."
then we can forget all about this and blue can go free without any charges.
#70
Posted 17 October 2010 - 05:12 PM
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#71
Posted 17 October 2010 - 05:19 PM
Well the only reason why this record was asked is because some of the amex gang got pissed that hellrazor's record got asked for "nothing". So this is like a comeback YO THEN WE WANT U ALL TO UPLOAD UR RECORDS TOO AGAGAGAGAGAGA. And even if Blue would upload the rec the result would be those e-thugs crawling back to their caves not even bothering to watch the record. I really don't see the point in that. The whole system currently is built up on just people trying to be a pain in the ass for others most of the time and trying to earn unsent records for their "enemies".Just to clarify I don't want to bust anyone, I have nothing to gain from this. (so I have nothing against blue but I'm still going to say things from my point of view)
I just don't understand how people have the nerve to say things aren't how they are based on some vague rules.
It's pretty clear that a demo isn't going to show up in any case. Personally I don't care how it gets handled from "DB point of view" but maybe it's better to go by the written rules for now. It still doesn't change the fact that it was him playing and people should make their own conclusions from that and the way cC handles this.
The only reason this demo request was made was because Junior who isn't even playing the game anymore feels like he needs to back up his homies (and well as far as i know that ain't a very valid request, otherwise i could bomb junior to upload all the records of all the wars he has played also AND if i find 3 missing there, oh my!!!!!BANBANBAN).
If we were to use COMMON SENSE or whatever you were implying to before Yanko, then i really don't see why i need to upload a record for a person who has shit to do with the situation or to people who aren't actually interested in watching the record through anyway.
This is like some childish graffiti war. Oh you taged my neighborhood now i tag yours!!!!
And i don't see why this topic isn't locked already. It's going nowhere.
And seriously why is the portugese commie still an admin...lol.
#73
Posted 17 October 2010 - 05:31 PM
We have been in the same clans or teams for maybe 2 years now. I never saw him do anything suspicious. But his demo still gets requested prolly once a month. And whenever the request is valid he sends it. And from all these demo's he send during the years he never got busted. So I dont really understand why you keep requesting it and I understand aswell that blue can get anoyed by this.
And I dont really see why he should be called attention whore (Dont remember who said it here but thats not the point). I dont see him posted here in this topic looking for attention.
#74
Posted 17 October 2010 - 05:31 PM
Hehehe ok that's understandable.
But are you honestly telling me it's more mature and makes more sense to start this weird lying and defending instead of a) sending the demo thus making the lamers shut up b ) just telling them to fuck off and that's it? (<- that's from the point of view you're giving)
#75
Posted 17 October 2010 - 05:37 PM
and im not requesting blue's demo howlin are u fuckin retarded? maybe you should actually read the first post.
it's fuckin hilarious he can just edit the ipss which is fuckin obvious he did it since u can even see he connected and then be even more of a dick and post the ss he took himself in the amex topic to shove it up forgy's face he cant do shit about the lame crap blue pulls off.
edit: yanko: "making the lamers shut up" there's only one lamer in this situation. and when blue posted those ss nobody had the brains or the fuckin balls to put the pieces together and make a topic about it.
Edited by Junior, 17 October 2010 - 05:40 PM.
abu's day is ruined becuz of chris
abu is so mad
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#76
Guest_forgy._*
Posted 17 October 2010 - 05:47 PM
Well the only reason why this record was asked is because some of the amex gang got pissed that hellrazor's record got asked for "nothing". So this is like a comeback YO THEN WE WANT U ALL TO UPLOAD UR RECORDS TOO AGAGAGAGAGAGA. And even if Blue would upload the rec the result would be those e-thugs crawling back to their caves not even bothering to watch the record. I really don't see the point in that. The whole system currently is built up on just people trying to be a pain in the ass for others most of the time and trying to earn unsent records for their "enemies".
The only reason this demo request was made was because Junior who isn't even playing the game anymore feels like he needs to back up his homies (and well as far as i know that ain't a very valid request, otherwise i could bomb junior to upload all the records of all the wars he has played also AND if i find 3 missing there, oh my!!!!!BANBANBAN).
If we were to use COMMON SENSE or whatever you were implying to before Yanko, then i really don't see why i need to upload a record for a person who has shit to do with the situation or to people who aren't actually interested in watching the record through anyway.
This is like some childish graffiti war. Oh you taged my neighborhood now i tag yours!!!!
And i don't see why this topic isn't locked already. It's going nowhere.
And seriously why is the portugese commie still an admin...lol.
First of all, I posted after watching asrael's demo. Second of all, I have shown sincere interest in seeing his demo and would actually watch it. Your assumptions are just based on your idiot logic of assuming that amex members are just a bunch of e-thugs who talk in caps. Yes, we were fooling around during this war and doing our usual teabagging and such, but that's because we were having fun in vent. And I don't understand why you must use the passive aggressive flaming of calling all of our members e-thugs who live in caves and speak in caps and say AGAGAGAGA when your members are the ones with your TROLOLOLOH's and such. All the childishness you speak of is coming directly from you, really. But I digress.
As all of you have kinda been ignoring everything I've posted, the issue is NOT blue's demo anymore. It was, but this has really escalated to being an issue with the rules of demo requesting. I've already discussed on MSN, to spare you people who lack common sense, with the admins/mods responsible for the admin forums and have suggested they take a look at the criticism and loopholes in the rules that blue continues to exploit, i.e. editing screenshots, both in the score shots and the ip ss. In addition to not being allowed access to an ip ss because of obvious necessity to hide something, otherwise it wouldn't really matter, now would it. In fact, I'm sure you guys would find it fun to give me the ip ss if you had nothing to hide because it'd just make me look like a fool in any case since you were playing cleanly.
In any case, I suggest to just close this topic. What has been said has been said and nothing matters. I don't care about busting blue, I honestly just wanted to see his demo to see an explanation for the suspicions that I had. Obviously the rules of demo requesting and/or the team involved with deeming requests valid or invalid have some problems and loopholes that need to be discussed and looked at.
And a quick edit, to provide more common sense to demobase users. Why would blue take the score shots from his demo? He could easily turn chat off so the teamchat or global chat displayed wasn't shown at all during the demo. However, not something he would have done during the war. The shots obviously come from during the war through logic of common sense. But nobody will believe that because the majority lack such a thing.
And one last note, my request of blue's demo had nothing to do with backlash for requesting hellrazor. Hellrazor re-joined amex literally 1 minute before we warred you. I don't really care about hellrazor's topic. I was surprised you asked him versus someone else from the war because he played by far the worst of all of us. I posted for blue's demo because I had suspicions during the war, asked him to get fp during the war (as you can see in asrael's demo in the first set, which he refused to do anyway), and asked for ip ss after the war, but was refused. Then I saw that blue wasn't on the ip ss, even though there was proof he entered the game and played the war through demos, screenshots, and demobase, so I was curious and thought I could get a shot to see his demo. However, because of the rules being so stupid, it was deemed invalid. So fix the rules. End
Edited by forgy., 17 October 2010 - 05:53 PM.
#77
Posted 17 October 2010 - 05:51 PM
The fact that u all are a bunch of pussies,hiding behind a set of rules or technicalities, and make all this drama god knows why, remains intact.
Couldn't care less if he's busted or if he has 1 unsent, that's not the issue. The real issue is the fact blue is a moron with some kind of "attention" deficit disorder, and he has 2 sisters and 1 mother that constantly come in his defense like if he's mentally hill or have some handycap.
And howlin no need to come with the "portuguese sovietic" ahah u honestly think any thing u say gonna make any kind of damage to me lool, u spoiled litlle brat, stop sitting in ur mother house and get a job or atleast finish ur education,u give to much attention to demobase and games.
#78
Guest_forgy._*
Posted 17 October 2010 - 05:55 PM
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