202 replies to this topic

[Sharpy]

The facts like what it would do for the states if it were legal, what it does to your body. The facts are everywhere and im not just going to name them all off. Look em up.
And i dont know if youve noticed but the states government is FILLED of 1 sided poiliticians that are out for themselves. And if they actually did come together as one and try and create revanue , then i could guarentee that weed would pop up legal.

Edited by Sharpy, 19 January 2011 - 12:18 AM.

[asrael]

We don't really understand what weed's effect on your brain is you know, so theres no way of telling if it's actually bad for you or not.

Plus, it is addictive. This does not MEAN that anyone who smokes gets addicted. Theres a huge difference

[Sharpy]

Okay well for your body it does absolutely nothing to you besides lower your sperm count a little, also it may have some short term memory effects.

And if your gonna think about it that way then half of almost everything is addicting
When i say addiction i mean someone who feins for it, and NEEDS it rather than someone who uses it recreationaly

[bing bang blaow]

I wouldn't consider smoking 24/7 recreational use..

[Foxdie]

whenever im high i always think my teeth are gonna fall out and i keep touching them

[abu]

thats cuz ur a fukin moron

[Sharpy]

Sure that was weed you were smokn?

[Foxdie]

Sure that was weed you were smokn?

ye lol it happens to me everytime

[Sharpy]

Trippn

[asrael]

Okay well for your body it does absolutely nothing to you besides lower your sperm count a little, also it may have some short term memory effects.

And if your gonna think about it that way then half of almost everything is addicting
When i say addiction i mean someone who feins for it, and NEEDS it rather than someone who uses it recreationaly

When i say addiction i mean they activate neurological system that make you crave weed. And yeah, it activates those systems. Guess that's just me.

And people don't KNOW the full effect of weed on your brains as they do not fully understand the endocanniboid pathway at all. They discovered it not too long ago and it's functions are far from known, as are it's effects.

[heldro]

I dident read all posts in the topic but here is what i think.

I live in holland so weed is allready legal for me. I started smoking weed since i was 15 and im still smoking it regually, im almost 21 now. started smoking like once/twice a month but it became more sooner. when i was 18/19 i smoked daily. nowadays i smoke like 3/4 times a week 1/2 joints a day; in the evening.

I think its a good drug and it should be legalised yes. the reason why i think this is because i dont see why it shouldent. i guess people will say: its bad for your health, you can become addicted or its bad for your social skills and ull become a lazy basterd.

health
well offcourse its bad for ur health, no shit alot of fun things are. its up to the people themselves to decide what they wanna do with their health, not the gouverment all they can and should do is inform people well about the risks. i dont know exactly how bad it is for ur health, all ive heard is that it is rougly the same as smoking 7/8 cigarettes and its possible for people to develope schizofrenia but that is very uncommen, drinking a good amounth of alcohol on a night is worse for ur health then smoking 2 joints. i dont got facts to back this put im pretty sure about it.

addiction
about the addictive thing. offcourse its mentally addictive, but everything you do can be mentally addictive. yes everything. some things just some more then other things. it surely aint fysicly addictive. i had times i had no weed and was desperate for smoking a joint aswell. looking whole house for some leftovers. i can say i been/am mentally addicted aswell. but on the other hand its not hard to loose mental addictions. its just a force of habbit. stop doing it for a week and the mental addiction will be reduced by twice allready. stop doing it for a month and it will be reduced by 6. im saying this out of own experience. i lost count of the times i told myself to stop smoking. i guess my record will be about 3/4 months. but if i really really wanted to stop it forever i think it wouldent be that hard for me. i just think its too good to stop it. i have 2 friends who were really addictive, like smoking was all they did all day long for over a year. they really got sick of it after some while became they became socially isolated because of it and said they would stop for real now. i dident beleave them, they told me this a dozen times before aswell but guess what. one of them stopped since newyear 2009, he just smoked 2 periods of both 2/3 months again and stopped cold turkey after that again last time was like 7 months ago for him now. the other friend still smokes but not more then 1/2 times in 2 weeks. in the past he allways was the one asking me if i felt like smoking a joint but now its reversed. and most of the time i know what the answer will be: "nah i rather do some other stuff" while before he would have said yes 10 out of the 5 times if you know what i mean. and all this because they really wanted to stop it. so no i dont think addiction is a really big issue offcourse you can come with examples of people who are addicted for over 20 years, smoking 5 joints a day and are convinced they can never stop because they are so addicted. but thats just the force of habit. there are also people who are addicted to reading comics. alcohol and other drugs are for more additive: WEED AINT AN REAL ADDICTIVE DRUG.

about the thing i said it decreases ur social skills and ull become a lazy bastard. well i cant argue with that, its true. but just if you smoke it alot. not once a week or less. been there done that. fucked up school because i rather smoked and slept and this is the only reason i told myself to stop a dozen times. smoking weed is nice and fun, just dont do it too much and ull be allright but thats basicly the story of all drugs.

well ive been trying to disprove why it would be bad, now i will start about the BENEFITS.

why do i smoke? well basicly for the same reason i use other drugs and alcohol. its nice to fill ur spare time with and chill on it with friends. why do specificly smoke weed. its a nice drug, whenever i smoke it i can forget about all things i worry about. i can relax good on it and most importantly its a mind-blowing drug, meaning: it expans ur mind and makes u able to look at things in a different (more clear) way and see other points of view. sometimes i think about things and i really dont understand shit why it is like that. when i smoke weed i can look at this things in a different way and understand it. also it increases all ur senses. but if you would only smoke for that reason you would be better off using other drugs, but its a good addition offcourse. but when you just start smoking you will notice this alot more then when you smoke regually. i also started smoking for this reason but thats not the reason for me to smoke it anymore.

conclussion
if people want to smoke weed they will find it and smoke it anyway, there is no use in making it illigal because this only supports crime on the way its done now. holland has proven this. the percentage of people smoking weed in holland is about the same as in other countries where it is illegal i can give u facts if you dont beleave me. also weed is a soft drug, meaning: people who smoke it wont be tripping hard on it or being unable to control their deeds. i know people will be saying now: YO I SMOKED WEED AND I WAS SO WASTED OMGOMG well fuck you ur an idiot and gtfo of this convo. offcourse ur experience it like this when you smoked for the first time, probably the same thing happened when you drunk alcohol for the first time, you must have thought you were so fucking wasted while when you look back on it now you know you really werent.

i know its a long story but i hope people took the time to read it

Edited by heldro, 20 January 2011 - 12:54 AM.

[Sharpy]

Somewhere i read there somethn like 1 joint = 7/8 cigarettes?
Because that it complete bullshit. Heres just a little something intresting...BTW this is in US.

MY CASE

(annual causes of death by cause)

Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,6223
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,0001,
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0

Edited by Sharpy, 20 January 2011 - 12:38 AM.

[heldro]

omfg ur truly a retard, im not even going to try to explaint to you why. ill go smoke a joint now adios.

Edited by heldro, 20 January 2011 - 12:46 AM.

[doctorfunk]

well it's probably not non-cancerous at least not in the way cigarettes are anyway, but saying 0
is probably more of wishful thinking than truth.

anyway its addictive so other than more cash from taxes i cant really see any benefits, lol cmon
addictions limit you and its no secret some people get addicted from smoking it
but it seems its less dumb than smoking cigarettes

[Sharpy]

Lol im to retarded? How about you explain yourself instead of getting proved wrong and leaving.
Also, it is not wishful thinking its the truth. Marijuana, single handedly has not killed a single god damn person.

[malign]

Don't you think it can influence life expectancy?

[maniman]

Its true

Maybe if you count the people who use it wrong wich resulted into car accidents etc you have 100people, buttttt not marijuana itself and if we count resulted accidents on all other things then even falling from a stair death will have 1000s of dead people

[Sharpy]

Exactly my point.
Its not the plant that hurts you, its how you do it. And what you do when your on it.

[bing bang blaow]

anything u burn and inhale damages your lungs mostly
tho u can go around that and use vaporizers etc

Edited by rocket, 20 January 2011 - 01:13 AM.

[Richard]

I think marihuana smoking has got alot of adverse health effects actually. I just believe people that smoke marihuana are just too ignorant to see it, just like people that smoke tobacco don't see the major harm they cause to themselfs and people around them.