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[Agility]

What are the basic requirements for a good pc? I mean a pc that is able to play movies and games on high settings. I'm asking your help because I'm a layman when it comes to computers. What are the most important things to look at?


Thanks

Edited by Agility, 26 December 2012 - 10:45 PM.

[doctorfunk]

games = graphics card, cpu
movies = display

1. how much are u willing to spend?
2. are you planning or buying a new display too?

[Agility]

Thanks for your quick reply!

I'm actually looking for a more specific answer.. I mean what graphic card is good etc..

My budget is 800 euros, but that's not really important because all I want to know is, is what are good graphic cards to play new games with. I'm not looking for the best graphic card.

Greets

[doctorfunk]

use most of your budget on gpu if gaming is what you really care about the most. WIth that budget I'd buy a new Radeon. If I had 800 euro to spare I'd go for Radeon HD 7850/7870/7950. Any of them will do. Older generation 6850/6870 would be a nice buy too. I guess in that price range you can go for nvidia card, but I don't know em so ask someone else what to buy xD

anyways most money -> gpu, second most -> cpu
buy solid psu/case/motherboard! buy them at best quality/price points but don't buy crap
you can save on ram, just buy 2x4gb of ANY ddr3 1333mhz cl9 or even cl11 ram and you'll be fine, spending money on ram is a waste for gaming

Good setup made by Jesa; seems to be good for your needs!!

DB Serious Gamer

PSU: XFX Core Edition PRO550W
DVD: Samsung SH-222BB
Case: Cooler Master Silencio 550
Graphics card: Gigabyte GeForce 660 2GB
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1 TB & Intel SSD 330 Series 120GB
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM DDR3 2x4GB 1333MHz
Processor: Intel i5 3550 3.3GHz
Motherboard: Asrock ZH77 Pro3

Winkelmandje (Shopping Cart)

Cost: ~800€

This is a serious gaming rig for non-overclockers that runs any current game. To be realistic, you can't max out details in the heaviest of games but still this one offers a very good performance for it's prize. It features NVidia GTX 660 2GB, quad-core processor and 8GB of RAM and a SSD for operating system and programs + 1 TB HDD for games etc. Cooler Master Silencio 550 offers nice cooling performance and silent operation. I'd say this rig has a 3-4 year life span gaming-wise if you upgrade the graphics card after the second year.

[Jesa-]

Demobase PC

I just updated the DB Serious Gamer with a cheaper + better SSD.

[Agility]

Thanks for helping me!

Well, there is a store nearby, and I checked out there site and saw a brand called Medion Akoya. Is this any good? Is it known for good quality? Oh and I'm not going to setup a pc, I just buy a original one right away at the store. So not going to put in other videocards. Also a brand I can buy, which is in my price range, is ASrock. Which of these brands are better? And when I get more concrete, I will throw some specs up here for you to judge and help me.

[Jesa-]

If you're going for a branded PC, then only the specs and how the brand's logo looks to you matter... so you'd better link here those branded PCs you're considering to buy and we'll help you to choose the least crappy one.

P.S. Don't buy a branded pc for gaming.

Edited by Jesa-, 27 December 2012 - 10:46 AM.

[Agility]

If you're going for a branded PC, then only the specs and how the brand's logo looks to you matter... so you'd better link here those branded PCs you're considering to buy and we'll help you to choose the least crappy one.

P.S. Don't buy a branded pc for gaming.

Allright I will put some links up here, but at first, why is a branded pc not good enough for gaming? And all those pc's which you can setup yourself are way too expensive!

[Jesa-]

Allright I will put some links up here, but at first, why is a branded pc not good enough for gaming? And all those pc's which you can setup yourself are way too expensive!

Huh? It's those branded "gaming" PCs that are expensive compared to those you can setup yourself. Alright, get those links up and we'll look into it in more detail.

[SiM]

ssd its better for games, where a lot of information is on disk like 30GB maps for ex in MMO games.

Minimum RAM atm is 4GB (you can have 32 etc) i suggest near 8 ofc ddr3 with highest speed
CPU older games dont use 23143124213432x processor, just one. But take i5/7 -always intel ^^
Graph GeForce GTX 670 2GB its fine but price, GTX560 1,5GB GDDR5 will do and price is better.


motherboard, well pick one on Your own. it depends -what sockets, future upgrade

good power supply

[Agility]

http://www.paradigit...9d/default.aspx
http://www.paradigit...50/default.aspx
http://www.paradigit..._w/default.aspx

(Dutch site, but look at 'specificaties', you guys will see)

Oh and is windows 8 any good?

Well, you guys made me think, should i actually go for a branded pc? I might setup one myself though, as you guys say it is awesome.

Edited by Agility, 27 December 2012 - 12:14 PM.

[Junior]

http://www.dragoncomputers.nl/
delivered within 3 days..

[Jesa-]

http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_07com/01_desktop/productdetails/80008598/medion_akoya_p5289d_s90__i7_3770_8gb_1tb_gt640/p5289d/default.aspx
http://www.paradigit...50/default.aspx
http://www.paradigit..._w/default.aspx

(Dutch site, but look at 'specificaties', you guys will see)

Oh and is windows 8 any good?

Well, you guys made me think, should i actually go for a branded pc? I might setup one myself though, as you guys say it is awesome.

The first one is unbalanced, a powerful CPU (i7) combined with a weak graphics card (GT640) and the latter two PCs use Intel's integrated graphics card that can't handle modern games.

You are much better off picking PC parts by yourself than going with a branded PC. This gives you a better price/performance ratio and ability to upgrade your PC later on. Also if you setup one yourself, you'll learn a lot about how a PC works. It's not rocket science, it's pretty easy to be honest. Just read or watch a few tutorials and follow the motherboard's installation instructions and you're good.

Even the 500e DB Budget Gamer in Demobase PC topic slaps any of those 800e branded PCs you suggested with at least twice the performance in games. Here's what I suggest to you: http://azerty.nl/win...erwijder=511065
I took the DB Serious Gamer and downgraded the processor so there's 100e left for an operating system of your preference. You can later on upgrade that Pentium to an i5 or i7 if needed.

Edited by Jesa-, 27 December 2012 - 06:28 PM.

[SiM]

friends said that 8 is fine, never tested but i belive its better than 7

[~ACER*]

http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_07com/01_desktop/productdetails/80008598/medion_akoya_p5289d_s90__i7_3770_8gb_1tb_gt640/p5289d/default.aspx
http://www.paradigit...50/default.aspx
http://www.paradigit..._w/default.aspx

(Dutch site, but look at 'specificaties', you guys will see)

Oh and is windows 8 any good?

Well, you guys made me think, should i actually go for a branded pc? I might setup one myself though, as you guys say it is awesome.

go to the paradigit store, get the folders how to build your own pc, etc (like 3 folders) and then you can order the parts and put it yourself,if you think you can't (im sure a friend of you can) then ask in the paradigit store how many they ask to put a pc together for you, also you can give them the list you see @ jesa's post and tell them you need those parts in the pc and ask the price.

[Agility]

So ACER can i also ask them to set up my pc if tell them which parts to put in? So i don't have to do it myself, because i already know i won't be good at setting up a computer.

Edited by Agility, 27 December 2012 - 05:20 PM.

[Agility]

One thing i know is, that i'm going to shop at the paradigit store, they're good and nearby. Is it possible to setup a nice PC for 800 euros?

[~ACER*]

One thing i know is, that i'm going to shop at the paradigit store, they're good and nearby. Is it possible to setup a nice PC for 800 euros?

Jup they 'build'' pc to, just make sure you go there, ask wath they recommend, post that list on db, and let jesa check it out.
(dont just say oke i buy it to the seller, first let jesa have a look @ it).

Also ask for a list of the parts they recommend.

You can also print the list of jesa and ask them if they can arrange that for your budget, if they set a higher prices just consider about it the extra $$ you pay is just for the build/store garanty.
They will help you out, but I really recommend to post your list here before you buy it.

Edited by ~ACER*, 27 December 2012 - 05:58 PM.

[Jesa-]

I think the link to my setup was somehow broken and no one could see it so here you go: Winkelmandje

[Agility]

I think the link to my setup was somehow broken and no one could see it so here you go: Winkelmandje

haha yes now i can see. Is that a setup where you can game and watch movies with?