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[doctorfunk]

 

but back to the original point doc, you were one of my favorite opponents to play against, because I knew I was going to get a good game, you were a worthy opponent.  you wouldn't play for score, you and junior were really disciplined about your role, you guys played fast, if I didn't really bring it that day your team would totally beat us, you might not have always contributed higher than your usual 11-12-13-14, occasional 22 on the scoreboard, but you just applied constant pressure and let players like dark, camper, camham, azzy  reflex, shine at those 17, 19,  23, 26  usual spots.  Basically when I was playing vs. you I like, buckled down for a good war, got excited in like, one of my favorite kind of ways, because I knew it wouldn't become a scorewhore war like vs owng.perf, even if there was a scorewhore or two on your team.  So for that, I always respected you.  Plus you used to talk more shit to me than anyone, and always underestimated me, so I loved beating you more than almost anyone.  

 

Thanks a lot for kind words exe. We did try to compete each and every game and took care that whether it was a big win or a big loss the game did not deteriorate into a clown show or scorewhoring fest. To me that was important to give respect to the opponents, well maybe we took playing a bit to serious back then  

 

Also we used to talk shit a little but that was in the spirit of the competition. Also when you're younger you're more cocky and don't want to give too much props to anyone/anyclan. We always respected you as opponent. I hated going roof or east whenever you were there. I knew that's gonna be difficult struggle to advance and not get killed early.

[NavySeal]

I wasnt good from day 1 lol. I was a noob sniper glitching window ledge near kitchen in the beginning.

For me it was an honour to play with the other guys in c4. A lot of them were way better then me. It was fun to play as we all spoke Dutch and were constantly joking. I think besides of the skill, the team spirit was amazing.

I remember moving house in 2008 and didnt have a pc anymore but only a noob laptop. Was hard to play from then. In 2009 I moved to south of France and quit the game. I still live there at the moment and very happy.

[NavySeal]

Anyways of course I am biased but best line ups also depends on timeframe because some players were better or worse at certain times.

For me Steven was the best player in the game. The best line up in the game would always have Steven, Skoko, Lumi and Xillax in the team.

[executor]

I wasnt good from day 1 lol. I was a noob sniper glitching window ledge near kitchen in the beginning.

For me it was an honour to play with the other guys in c4. A lot of them were way better then me. It was fun to play as we all spoke Dutch and were constantly joking. I think besides of the skill, the team spirit was amazing.

I remember moving house in 2008 and didnt have a pc anymore but only a noob laptop. Was hard to play from then. In 2009 I moved to south of France and quit the game. I still live there at the moment and very happy.

 

true i always used to bitch about you camping the windows  to the point that like Milenko's/Distort eventually outlawed it... we're talking window glitching even before we had an abbreviation for it

(around the time we decided bc'ers are a thing that's 100% breaking the rules too... just a month or 2 after in 2002.)

Edited by executor, 20 February 2021 - 03:39 AM.

[executor]

Anyways of course I am biased but best line ups also depends on timeframe because some players were better or worse at certain times.

For me Steven was the best player in the game. The best line up in the game would always have Steven, Skoko, Lumi and Xillax in the team.

 

i would say windows is best. 

tbh, or freestyle, $nugg, priest, st4ff, msg90a1, hok, ross, m00se, broken,

see if you wanna talk pure skill, I'd say zioni is the best, but like reflex, zioni has an ego that dictates his play in game, to the point that the ceiling on his teamplay isn't as high as the previous 7 on that list, which is why $nugg is actually better, but windows and taavi were both a little bit more explosive even while not taking anything from the team's teamwork, so I'd rank it 1. windows 2. taavi 3. $nugg 4. freestyle 5. xillax

 

  even if I understand what you mean by "reflex is the besT" and hypothetically I guess I kinda agree, it's just the game doesn't exist in a vacuum.  Teamwork matters in a team game like sof2.  

Edited by executor, 08 March 2021 - 06:55 PM.

[NavySeal]

Man you got issues.

[executor]

I'd say the best way i could explain it

 

is if I gave everyone on that level ratings

 

and everyone has a teamwork bonus rating that gets added     multiplier! 

 

and whoever has the highest total, has the largest impact on the game, and is the true best

 

"most skilled of teh best of the best"

1. st4ff -        2009

   wndws    - 2008

   freestyle  - 2008

4. $nugg      - 2007

    ambush   - 2006

6. zioni       - 2006

7. reflex     - 2005

8. xillax      - 2005

9. campari - 2005

10. zippa     - 2005

11. camham - 2005

12. farlig       - 2005

      seych      - 2005

     *Latikas    - 2005

      Lauri        - 2005

15. skoko      - 2004

14. ph4ze      - 2004

16. exe          - 2004

17. vari          - 2004

18. lumi         - 2004

19. broken     - 2004

      angel       - 2004

      indo         - 2004

20. azzy        - 2004

21. borno      - 2004

22. blue         - 2003

23. priest       - 2004 

24. ceto         - 2003

25. rocket      - 2003

26. moose     - 2003

27. mathieu   - 2003

      skyline     - 2003

      gzuz        - 2003

      m4th        - 2003

      scantaxx  - 2003

      Ol.            - 2003

28. yoshi       - 2002

      rexel        - 2002

      $hekel     - 2002

      Mr. Nobody - 2002

      someone - 2002

      abu          - 2002

      jayro        - 2001

29. hokie       - 2001

 

 

 

teamwork:

1. hok            - +10 (+6 additional as coach/leader/shot caller/selfless team-oriented sacrificial entry... he was the MVP)

2. msg90a1   - +9.01

3. $nugg        - +8.99

4. ph4ze        - +8.75

5. xzi.            - +8.5

5. yoshi         - +8.5

7. moose       - +8.4

8. mathieu     - +8.3

9. sami          - +8.25

10. Mr. N        - +8.225

     m4th          - +8.22468

10. rocket       - +8.2

11. windows    - +8.04

11. st4ff          - +8

13. ross          - +7.99

12. rexel         -+7.82

14. varimir      - +7.75

15. seych       - +7.5

16. zippa        - +7.4

17. camper     - +7.3

18. ghostbuster - +7.25

      lauri            - +7.25

      abu             - +7.248

      latikas        - +7.225

      gzuz           - +7.222

19. bluei            - +7.2

      reimo        - + 7.198

      Ol.             - + 7.197

      skyline         - +7.17

      indo           -+ 7.117

 

20. tom - +7.01

     jayro - +7.008

20. ref - +7

20. zio - +7

20. cam - +7

20. borno - +7

20. azzy - +7

20. ceto - +7

20. lumi - +7

27. farlig - +6.99

28  angel - +6.98

29. scantaxx - +6.97

      $hekky    - +6.74

30. ambush - +6.5

Edited by executor, 08 March 2021 - 07:29 PM.

[executor]

but wait can we talk about 

 

if moose had father christmas + gzuz + ambush + farlig

 

for every match.  imagine how our perception would have changed, if he was always top fragging among that company and beat c4, she, cC. and 3v. on the regular.  He was definitely capable, and he played a style that... that may very well be how it played out if he got a chance to play with those lineups often. 

 

like, m00se was a great player,

but we'd normally never talk about him in this conversation

which is fine, because, he didn't really compete against the best in 5v5's that often. 

tbh tho I truly don't think he was on the level of $nugg aim wise,

and while he was a great sniper, probably the 2nd or 3rd best w/ the msg90a1 other than m@rty,

at least until DARK started trying to snipe me back in 2007-2008 and passed everyone else... $nugg and rocket were probably the next closest towards the end in like 2009-2012, but I think skyline could also surprise me from pb sometimes with the scope

Edited by executor, 05 March 2021 - 04:19 PM.

[executor]

but wait can we talk about 

 

if moose had father christmas + gzuz + ambush + farlig

 

for every match.  imagine how our perception would have changed, if he was always top fragging among that company and beat c4, she, cC. and 3v. on the regular.  He was definitely capable, and he played a style that... that may very well be how it played out if he got a chance to play with those lineups often.  like, m00se was a great player, but we'd never talk about him in this conversation, which is fine, because, he didn't really compete against the best in 5v5's that often.  I truly don't think he was on the level of $nugg aim wise, and while he was a great sniper, probably the 2nd best in the game I knew of besides marty

 

I think he might have actually been a better true sniper than marty in terms of like, flicking, but m@rty was a damn good sniper, he knew how to fucking punish opponents with that shit just by positioning and expertise.  I never liked him, but I definitely respect that m@rty was the 1 person (besides the rare -HaZe- |Myzrael| appearance) that kept the sniper alive over the years after fucker quit in like 2003, early 2004 until hok started teaching me how to use it in late 2006 because he had recently become good enough to be effective with it himself, and he saw how it SHOULD be used,

 

but I was better at hitting those athfhillteach?!?   Riḥpḷeks : ரிஃப்ளெக்ஸ் - - reflex shots. 

 

Hok probably wouldn't have started using the sniper himself if it wasn't to counter |she| m@rty as he'd snipe us from tin then talk shit        but hok actually was able to lock roof/west down with it at times, games where he'd go 7/2 or 12/3 sniping from west while we win 10-2 vs. good opponents, because everyone else could focus on other tasks.  but he felt his full effectiveness wasn't being used that way, he needed to be in the midst of the action to see what was going on and call appropriately, plus he'd always get way too frustrated because he'd whiff hard and cost us a round so he knew he still sucked with it and was never going to truly master it... but the scope had too much potential, and wanted to pass on the torch to either me, Mr. Face >.<   or freestyle.  The other 2 had proved to be better snipers up until that point.  But he saw my potential, and he knew I wanted it the most because I worked on with it him every day, so it wasn't long before he was my biggest hype man outside of speedi who just happened to be on the receiving end of like 7 of my greatest 10 truly insane 3v. sh0t!! 's ever, just because those were times I was really hungry for a good war, but all we had was a mixwar with like, speedi, butcher, junior, drfunk, asrael, odi, Navy, Howlin, azzy types... enough skill to make me like, amped up to play a high-quality mix, there were no noobs in those games, but there wasn't enough high-level c4. sK. rz / cC. |she| or [[ cG ]] caliber players to frighten me into playing tight at all... I'd have some good weed, all the time in the afternoon every time it was a snow day in highschool, and I'd literally want nothing in the world more than to just snipe on blue side in this mixwar

 

and then rush roof every other round on red so I could snipe some more... but tbh I also wanted to play caseroom with an ak as long as I had 100 - 115 ping, and it wasn't GreenRoom or c4.warrr serv w/ 150 ping.  At that point in the game, it was just all pure joy.  

 

reflex just usually had a more complete team around him than windows

so our perception is inclined to lean that way at first

 

every time steven was in the server

he had fucking richard

and xillax + 2 more greats,

and a 5th up and coming great

the new kid on the block

the next hotshot

 

then even years later,

after manager hadn't been seen on the game for years

whenever he'd play a war

c4 would still ALWAYS have at least:

ghostbuster™ + a lumi, a camham, at the very least 3 on that level, usually 4 on that level... plus him.  

 

he wasn't out here playing with underdog lineups, Mike A <3  and blistered.wolf and MuSh and pr!me

all with 100 ping

 

when he played with Button and ibi

 

they were usually the lone player that was maybe a step behind

 

rest would 4/5 still be like

luminaire,

xillax,

richard,

ghostbuster,

rexel,

dio,

rocket,

windows

daleetpork

aytuo

prsk

darkness

priest

zippa

indo

navy

 

and he'd always have that dirty 20 or 40 ping, instant reg on his ak

for years he dodged playing with 100 ping,

then finally agreed but refused to do anything but 1v1 CO,

did that literally once, then threw 3 or 4 really well timed nades at the top of the small, 

beat me without ever having to engage in a gunfight... just, with nades and stalling tactics

 

then acted like it meant his ak was superior even on 100 ping, and referenced that one CO game from that point forward, for years

but would never acknowledge he beat me with his CO skills, and it had nothing to do with the ping argument we'd been having for years

I'd played 1 game in my lifetime of CO by that point

that was why he won, if I had played 4 games lifetime of CO, i might have had a chance, but it was my 2nd, I was totally unsure of the timings on it, and the player I beat before (sparklys?) didn't do me any favors because he didn't know how to play it either.  So we both knew it literally had nothing to do with the ping difference.

 

but he'd pretend that was an even balance, that he was judging on a flat surface.  That's what i didn't respect.

 

 

 

so yes,  I'll admit reflex is one of the best, most skilled players to ever play any version of Soldier of Fortune II

 

but was he the best?

 

nah homie,

that's not really how it went

the last game hokie ever played

ref had the crew...  c4. sk0k0k0k0k0   c4. cam_b4m    c4. lUminAiRe .|E     c4.  ind0st33l0   

+ c4. Del  ta           (when cam left)

 

 

we started on red, because i can see the moment from the back right corner of kitchen...   where I was lining it up like i do every war

 

 

seeing how close

 

to full

 the potential,

 

 

 

 

there was no possible excuse for this match

 

me and hok

it didn't matter what anyone else thought

even yosh

 

not about the game

cuz we knew we both could see the same things

cuz we'd talk about it day and night

12 hours a day

every day

from 2003

to

2008

 

 

so when I say, "a full game," I mean...

 

there were no woes on either side going into it

it wasn't an inconvenient time where they just had to make do with someone in their A- lineup.  All 5 A+ on both sides.  I wouldn't have swapped out anyone on either side.  I saw it as our strongest teamwork + skill lineup, vs their strongest... and I thought we were going to SLAUGHTER them because of the way we'd been firing on all cylinders lately, and while they were mechanically every bit as skilled as us, I thought tactically we had fought to find that edge where we're just a little bit faster, a little bit more in sync, our prefires were better than someone with perfect aim reacting instantly, and we just honestly felt like our best jab was too much for teams to handle at that point in time.  We would focus on how we could win enough on red those days, and then once I got the scope out in west... it was all down hill.  That's when I'd appreciate how amazing snugg was at running the case.   And as much as i disliked butcher when he was vanquishing us from caseRun glory, I had come to love having him as a teammate when $nugg was playing, because his teamwork and timing was actually instant, it felt like having a focused 2004 priest again but with much less reluctance to push and totally without the ego when you'd try to tell him to do something in real time.   I loved playing with tom, but any time I'd try to instruct him, use some info only spectators could see, you could always see the moment's hesitation of him deciding whether he wants to listen to the way someone else would play it.  since hok discovered snugg actually prefers to play cargo on red and have that freedom to just read the other team and get that first opening pick then roof control... the last 3 or 4 weeks when we'd always have st4ff or snugg or m4th playing that cargo role,  I legit think we went like 60-0... I know for a fact we'd won 6 in a row on c4 going back to the past month and a half, because me and hok talked about it that last morning.  And freeStyle` in east had lowkey had become the top3 hottest aimer in the game... him and vari were on fire at that point in summer 2008.  ZioNi probably coulda been the best player in the game tho, skillwise he was right there, like even with ross and $nugg and reflex when he had low ping, but there were some teamplay things he couldn't master because his ego was always in the way... the only person who could get him to listen was hokie.    

 

 

 

 

3v. hok

3v. 5nugg

3v. mathieu.

3v. sami

3v. e

 

vs. 

 

c4. sk0-k--k0k00k0

c4. camiel

c4. st3v3n

c4. lumiNaiRe

c4. [ˈdelta____]) 

 

we smacked them 10-0.  Swap to blue side.  Won 2-0.  Another great c4. player joined, 1 left. 

we started fresh.  10-0 on both sides again.  It was the best teamwork I've ever felt... I felt like we conquered the game.  c4 literally said they quit demo, for real

ரிஃப்ளெக்ஸ்

Riḥpḷeks

 

 

 

 

reflex just usually had a more complete team around him than windows

so our perception is inclined to lean that way at first

 

but he'd pretend that was an even balance, that he was judging on a flat surface.  That's what i didn't respect.

 

 

was reflex a top5 player?  Yeah, I'd say it's disrespectful to not admit that.  But the last time the real 3v. played the best of c4, reflex lost 20-0 twice in a row, but we pretend he was superior to us all, even $nugg, XillaX, -HaZe- |farlig| 2004, -HaZe- |Ambush| 2006, priest.OWNg@perf//

Edited by executor, 08 March 2021 - 05:10 AM.

[ReneGaDe]

Lol exe, you should download demo again instead of writing on this forum 24/7

[executor]

Lol exe, you should download demo again instead of writing on this forum 24/7

 

i actually like writing, but yes, i agree... we need a SoF4 gold/demo INF\ctf  remaster

[shift]

official historian

[XILLAX]

You should make a new thread collating all of this information(and more?), "A History of SoF2 MP Test - Exe's POV"

It would be really cool to read through it all in a less disjointed thread

P.s. Best lineup is everyone listed here:
http://amexlifestyle.com/members.aMeX

Interesting to see all the Amex members ages now, considering I remember playing when I was just 12 yo with *-=(>RD<)=-* and then with -=]C|P[=-

[executor]

wait who was in RD?

Edited by executor, 06 March 2021 - 01:31 PM.

[executor]

wait who was in RD?

 

i was in a clan with you ross

like, before pony days

that much I know for sure,

believe born2relax was in it too, with his buddy uhhm.... fuckkkkk .  t

 

tark!v?  fuckkk.  that's gunna bother me, i was like, write at the edge of the name, but that's not it at all

trkb !? think it started with a t, then had some kinda sharp edge to it that didn't make sense to me in english, and maybe a round letter at the end that felt out of place.  something that I thought it was kinda an ugly in-game name, or at least a little bland, and was like hard to build a reputation on this game with, because I'd played with him many times but still was surprised every time that he was such a good player, because I'd always forget who he was when I'd see him in public, would just assume he's another casual player, and he rarely ever typed anything, but he was pretty much a package deal with born2relax back then.  I actually thought it was kinda cool after he explained that his name meant he was the 2nd best Turkish player, born2relax was trkA, but by that point he had already asked for help coming up with a new name.

 

His original one just didn't have the star quality that aNgeL` or luminaire or reflex or Fucker  did

 

which is funny because looking back now, one of my all-time  fav name + clantag is -HaZe- | LiViN' CeTo!! |

 

but, that's who was always with borno even back then, whatever his name was before we somehow came up with LiViN CeTo!!

I was there for that one too, (forgive me if anything is jumbled, but I just keep adding random things I remember) i see us in west like, by the window outside office, we'd been fighting east <--> west earlier but it turned into just friendly afk typing, me climbing out on the ledge and coming back in, trying to think of cool names for legit like, hours. 

most likely w/ prod, me and him did things like that often.  but it was one of those late night 2v2's with borno vs. probably me & prod, maybe me & rocket or ibi 

 

oh fuck rocket was also in that old like, noob wannabe clan too.  it was before we started -=]vK[=- with paaHto* (the first time), before .sD` I'm pretty sure too.

 

ahhh and FreeStyle` [Eiber] was in that 1st clan too, I know because 3v. was my 3rd clan with him, I was the one who vouched for him to hokie, which is why he was legit the very FIRST member, right before rexel and sm@gmata, then hok picked up Mr. Face and out|<ast.

 

that was his big recruit

he swore that was going really swing things, Outy was going to attract some good euro talent

but I just didn't see it yet

yet overnight he woke up with a k@tana in his arsenal,

in the form of a sleeper pick we'd come to know and love as -={The Egg}=- $p!tfire

 

so overnight we went from,

me and hok dreaming up the 3v. tag right after Yoshi and abu and prod and nick and ta|on and jojo all got off one by one and went to bed.  tbh jaron mighta still been there with us that very first night when it was just me and hok in main

 

the very next day we had a site up:

 

3v. |Hokie|

3v. |prodigy|      *Co-Ldr

3v. |out|<ast.|    *Co-Ldr

3v. |abu|            *Co-Ldr

3v. |FreeStyle`|

3v. |ReXeL|

3v. |smagm@ta|

3v. |Mr. Face|

3v. |yoshimitsu|

3v. |MuSh|

3v. | ta|on |

3v. |ph34r|

3v. |outy|

ADAM?   wtf totally just remember a period of |BoM| days I hadn't thought about

ten?

3v. |shifty|

3v. |ExEcuToR|   -TRIAL-

 

then over the next week we picked up Odi.

didn't we have another sniper besides Mr. Face?

but we definitely picked up m4th and Le ShuTTy in those first few weeks,

but our big hotshot recruit/VIP who played with us often early on, that really started making teams like -HaZe- take us seriously, ironically enough, was:                                            3_v. | A ngeL` |

 

 

 

lol i remember I had such a chip on my shoulder, cuz me and hok, we formed this clan together.  And immediately I got put outside the fence.  Told I wasn't in.  Which was fine, cuz I was never once discouraged for a second, it just drove me to become a better player...  That was when I really started training with hok every free moment I had, if we weren't playing the game, we were talking about the game on MSN or in vent.  But I remember telling hokie, after listening to him bitch about angel for years, to now he's sucking AngeL's dick to keep him happy

 

and just letting him walk right in and wear the tag I came up with, while I was either a trial or kicked out and clanless, depending on what day it was and how desperately hok needed a 5th. 

 

So I just remember like, really feeling like a jealous ex girlfriend, knew I couldn't be mad because angel really was one of the best players in the game at the time, but I just told hok... mark my words.  One day when you have a really good war, vs. -HaZe- or whoever's best, you're not gunna take angel over me... 

 

hok: sry to break it to you, but I'm always going to take johan over you.  he's better

exe: nope.  one day I'll be the first teammate you ask to war, the one you trust most

hok: hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

hok: stfu nerd

hok: you're not even in 3v. yet

hok: tens better than you wit 200 ping

 

_________________________________________________________________________________

In that time period, the game felt so alive, everyone had so much interest in being the best, there was such a strong, established hierarchy with the great clans and players like -HaZe- and cC. and -=OG=- so it just really was the perfect thing like,

when your world IRL sucks,

when you're just a kid,

totally powerless in whatever situation you're stuck in,

when you wake up most nights,

with hands around your neck

suffocating you

knees pinning your arms behind your head

never allowing you another breath unless you buck him off

a LITERAL fight for your life

and like a weird episode of Mr. Robot from the 90's

the lights come on

parents standing over you

and it's always just

 

"hay!"

quit horsing around, both of you.

and everyone else continues acting like

like you live in the perfect suburban middleclass dream childhood

and the only thing that would ever come of it

was when they'd see the DEEP scratch marks on my attacker's arms, shoulders, back, neck, face

just, a regular thing in our childhood

my dad would always hold me down in the tub and cut my nails

"my talons" 

i used to call them, because they were my only defense

without them I'd feel naked

because I knew at some point when I least expected it, he was going to pounce again.

I'd tell literally every person who ever mentioned my brother

exactly who he was

but like a twisted episode of Mr. Robot

everyone would just laugh and minimize the violence

just turn down the volume on screams

because they weren't the one locked in the trunk being tortured for 12 years straight.

 

he was 3 feet away when I went to sleep,

he was there when I woke up,

he was there when I went to school,

he was there when I went to practice,

he was there when I went to my sister's games,

he was there when my parents would leave and put him "in charge,"

he was there when I'd stay inside

he was there when I'd go outside

his favorite activity in life was hurting me.

even when I'd finally found a place of my own

the online gaming world

a place where he couldn't touch me

where he wasn't faster, stronger, older, more experienced

a place where I was truly better than him

well of course he followed me there too

he'd play under my name after, pretending that he was too lazy

that that was "nerd shit" he didn't care about

but he piggy backed off my reputation all the time, he knew it opened doors in the Red Fac world

that the good clans would often ask me to VIP for them so they could 4v4 or 5v5 instead of 3v3

or my own clanmates would come online and he could play a pcw as me

the thing was tho, my brother has always been a dick

he doesn't give a fuck about people if there's no benefit in it for him

so my closest friends in the game, anyone i interacted with often

could tell it was me just by my voice, the way I write

but like, when asked

my brother would always lie and say it's me

then just not type much,

keep it short and simple but always the way I would spell things

"ye"

"ur good"

"nah"

"mhm"

"i kno"

"aight"

but like, it'd happen legit every day that at some point, he'd come over when I was on the good comp

and smack me in the side of the head

and say, "GET up." 

so, being tired of him ruining my reputation, by being an asshole on my name, plus he never played up to my standard

I finally got the idea to make my name really hard to reproduce

I was known as "dejaVu" by everyone in the Red Faction world

was the 0 ping owner of the biggest, most popular serv in the game,

{DeMoN} HomeBase T1 dedicated clan server

which became -iCe- dedicated T1 -32-person Clan server -iCe- when I started that clan.

 

```déJà::Vú_ was the name I'd wear, tried to make it unique so if he tried to recreate it off memory, something would just look wrong to my closest mates

 

and in those moments when he was shoving me off the pC, i'd race to open the console and change the name to "deja's bro"

 

but still, for 2 years from like 1999-2001 he'd been refusing to stop playing under my name, and it was to the point that before anyone talked to me, they'd always ask if it's the real dejaVu or the older brother

 

so when I was starting a new clan with my friend m4ver!ck, who in my opinion, was the best player in the game at the time,

 

I came up with the -iCe- tag because I thought it looked cool, and mav decided to change his name

to -iCe-cold       (with no space)

while 

I chose the name - i C e-   s p L ! t__  

and it seemed like every few weeks

I'd have a different way of $pelling it, just to make it look cool, and add a detail that only I would be able to recreate perfectly, otherwise it'd just look off to the ppl that played with me every day

but I felt like I'd finally found my home

online was the only place where I knew anyone

that didn't know my older brother in real life and fall for his charm where he always makes people want to impress him

even teachers

adults

but I finally had friends who didn't look up to him too

who weren't afraid of him

or respected him

or wanted his approval

people who knew both of us

and for the first time in my life, they actually chose me.

 

whether every person I ever knew even knew, they all made a choice

... but that meant the world to me

to finally have someone in my corner

wasn't just me against the world

they know who they are

they know I always saw them as my real family

 

so in the game,

it was the perfect escape

the one place where I could change my world

where I could be the best in the world at something

not like,

best book by a kid

or best soccer player for a 10 year old

but like, truly, the best with a mouse and a comp. out of the whole world of 6 billion people

where if you work hard enough,

it can be the one place where you don't have to run

and maybe someday that skill will actually be worth something tangible

maybe it'll mean freedom

 

+++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

 

but back to that old noob clan (that was actually pro in the future)

 

 pretty sure it was like me,

ExEcuToR

born2relax

r0cket+ 

(ceto)

ap0calypso

freeStyle`

br0kenarm     (WAS 100% IN HIS CLAN WHEN HIS ARM WAS ACTUALLY BROKEN!! lmao i remember that day when he changed his name to that as an excuse in case he sucked... but he didn't suck at all back then) when I think of that, I think of the east cubby on the right side ... it's kinda like I consciously took a fairplay screenshot of like, my perspective when I was spectating him and what I was thinking that moment, and I can slip back into that moment in time and see what I saw and thought again, when I think about whatever key totem pieces  brought me there.  Can't remember for the life of me tho what his name was BEFORE that... wasn't xzi yet)

 

we only had like 7-8 members so we rarely played a war, speedi or someone you wouldn't expect was leader, but we were all really good and hungry for wars, we just didn't have experience.  Between all of us we hadn't played 2 dozen wars in our lifetime yet.  

 

it didn't last long, maybe a week or 2, perhaps 3.

 

but i think it was before you changed your name to xXxkiLLaxXx,

or maybe I'm thinking of the moment you changed it by shortening it from that to .:XiLLaX:.. or whatever,  I can see the server tho that afternoon, purely, mp_shop, we were both on blue team, there were a few others talking with us, other like, "big names" now that were just another name back then, silently playing in the background,

Edited by executor, 08 March 2021 - 02:08 PM.

[executor]

 

i was in a clan with you ross

like, before pony days

 

was like,

 

mp3~Swissarmy`              in kitchen on red wearing that guy with the hat he always wore.

|TuS| Chrono

maybe like

-={DoPe}=-  LeVan_

or like *Qc*                                         ( $W/-\T &% or whatever weird symbols those 2 used in their names)

r0cket+

|TuS| NavY_sEaL

or3l

$hekel

Turbobigboy

$p!tfire

{ExEcuToR}

hok!ebird31

m4th

PreZ

sh1ft

ta|on

j0j0b34r <3

Wolve.

~Seychelles

Jesa487*                     

D!rk

YaNKoWiCH

Dena

 

on roof by the barrel by tin,

server had like 16-26 ppl,

probably only me and ross actually from that list, but there very well could have been quite a few of those names in the serv

 

I'd been carrying on a convo w. ross + someone else I knew very well,

probably jojo & shift with prez chiming in every now and then,

but I remember we'd just been chilling and talking for at least like, 40 mins,

maybe an hour that we'd been playing in there before you changed ur name...

every round we'd still be typing on roof till 1:15 then try to go clutch like, 3v12. 

honestly think it was 2002 but it coulda been 2003

Edited by executor, 07 March 2021 - 01:39 PM.

[BladHark]

I wasnt good from day 1 lol. I was a noob sniper glitching window ledge near kitchen in the beginning.

For me it was an honour to play with the other guys in c4. A lot of them were way better then me. It was fun to play as we all spoke Dutch and were constantly joking. I think besides of the skill, the team spirit was amazing.

I remember moving house in 2008 and didnt have a pc anymore but only a noob laptop. Was hard to play from then. In 2009 I moved to south of France and quit the game. I still live there at the moment and very happy.

Great to hear j0naz, all the best to you! We miss you, hit us up whenever you are in NL!

 

You should make a new thread collating all of this information(and more?), "A History of SoF2 MP Test - Exe's POV"

It would be really cool to read through it all in a less disjointed thread

P.s. Best lineup is everyone listed here:
http://amexlifestyle.com/members.aMeX

Interesting to see all the Amex members ages now, considering I remember playing when I was just 12 yo with *-=(>RD<)=-* and then with -=]C|P[=-

Yeah, it's nice to read all these stories and take a trip down memory lane. Thanks for the content exe.

 

You inspired me to come up with my own top 10 of all time:

 

10. St4ff:

Taavi was probably one of the hottest aimers in the game. Probably the only player that I would put in the same "robot-like" category of aimers as XillaX. However, he never got/took a chance to demonstrate his skill in a tournament and was already fairly inactive when I started playing with the top players in the game, so I can't rate him higher than the 10th spot.

 

9. Bornovsk:
The most annoying player that I've played and yes, this is a compliment. Years after he quit I would still hear references to him in games when someone was owning them while glitching. However, he also showed that he can beat the best of the best in my 1vs1 invitational tournament by beating players like Zippa and XillaX (in his prime). Definitely deserves a spot with the greatest of all time.

 

8. Priest:

At one of the most consistent top fraggers in the game. An absolute menace to play against when he would play patio as he was one of the most clutch players in the game's history at his peak. Can't remember the amount of 1vX situations he'd use to win. Also a very laid back and fun person to play with.

 

7. XillaX:

The other robot-like and, in my opinion, best aimer in the history of MP test. Ross was absolutely unstoppable whenever he'd put his mind to it. I remember him going 20/2 in a semi-final versus haze. I felt like every kill he made that game was clip-worthy. However, he never got back on this skill at some point and lost his touch, which is the reason I can't put him higher on my list.

 

6. Luminaire:

The demo all-star - no contest. Before being in his clan, I remember that seeing him connect to a war meant that we were in for a bad time. Easily the best nader in the game and also the player with the best sense of timing.

 

5. $nugg:

Always topfragging, won clan cups and nation cups (in which he would usually be the star player) and a very smart player in general. However, I feel like aimwise he was not as good as some of the other players on this list and although this is obviously not most important, I decided a 6th place was fitting here. I could probably place him higher on the list though, I guess this is down to preference.

 

4. Zioni:

His dominance started a bit late, but boy did he know how to absolutely destroy people. I remember him killing Junior 8 rounds in a row at the start of the round: he would singlehandedly make us feel like we were playing 4v5. If he had reached his peak a little earlier in the game's lifespan he would've definitely made it to my top 3. Also a very smart player and a real steady aimer.

 

3. Zippa:
Oldschool legend that never lost his touch. We played many 1vs1s (in both cups and casual games) and we would always be up for a good game. We always had a super competitive thing going on between us and I am 100% sure that we both became better players because of this. One of my three favourite teammates ever (together with skoko and camiel) as well: I remember him leaving c4 to restore the balance of the game at some point in time. Stunning aimer, brilliant player (in both clutch and fast situations) and one of my favourite players in the game.

 

2. Camham:

This guy always had the whole community hating at him, but one thing could not be denied and that was the fact that he was one of the best players of all time. I had the pleasure of playing a shit ton of games with him in which I can't remember more than 10 losses - this was (partially) achieved because of his raw talent and will to improve. A sick aimer, a smart player and you could always count on him to keep the roof on a serious lockdown (whether he was playing red or blue).

 

1. Skoko:
The best player of all-time in my eyes. There is no other player who peaked as hard as he did in the important matches. From 30-bombing sK in a cup final to going 25/5 in a final vs .|E stacked with Zippa, Lumi and myself while playing with fucking Marco (love you though :wub: ). Easily the best conference and main player that the game has seen. He would always boost the level of the team he was playing with: regardless of how shit his teams would be. Being his right hand man in c4 was a true pleasure.

 

Obviously this list is super biased, but these are the players that stuck with me the most. I can remember many more great players, but if I'd have to pick: these 10 made the biggest impression on me.

[executor]

 

Yeah, it's nice to read all these stories and take a trip down memory lane.  Love the top10 list ref!!  

 

You inspired me to come up with my own top 10 (career) of all time... i know you'd rather have me be humble but fuck it I'd rather give my honest feelings about who I feel was at the heart of the scene, and had the most successful career.  This list is just basically who I'd have as a first ballot Hall of Famer if sof2 demo had a H.o.F.

 

ph4ze

50. yanko

49. aytuo

48. pinokkio

47. jayro

46. radical

45. sylt

44. kapu

43. murdoc

42. netboss

41. prodigy

40. skyline

39. abu

38. dio

37. $hekel

33. windows

33. darkness

33. latikas

33. st4ff

33. lauri

31. indosteelo

30. ush

30. warren

29. ceto

28. broken

27. camham

26. yoshimitsu

25. ambush

24. navy seal

23. ZioNi

22. rexel

21. angel

20. c1

19. bornova

18. richard

17. rocket

 

16. shifty   -   lowkey jaron mighta wrecked us all on LAN.  Easily one of the best teamplayers in sof2 history.  Did more for the community than everyone else combined.  I think I only have him at #16 cuz I like that number for him, idk why but it just fits

 

15. camper

 

14. fucker

 

13. farlig

 

12. moose

 

10. seych   - 3                

10. gzuz     -    of               most          legendary, influential leaders and players

10. zippa    -         the

 

9. prsk 

8. luminaire

 

7. freestyle - sami was the workhorse who quietly dropped 22 every blue side and no one liked to give any credit beyond simply being the best east player on red.  He made every clan he was in Elite. from our noob days in [Eiber] to -=]vK[=-  to 3v. to |she| to .|E

 

6. ghostbuster - legend, ur not exaggerating about his peak either, he had moments where he was the hottest player in the game, clutching everything

 

5. priest - his POV felt like watching a ninja, to me priest will forever be that arrogant 13 year-old with maybe the best skills of anyone in the world on pc at the time in 2004 when he was motivated, like elemnt in cs1.6

 

4. bladhark - probably had the best aim in sof2 history alongside ambush, st4ff, bornova, priest, delta, ZioNi, xillax, zippa, $nugg & farlig.  Cleanest POV to watch.  Most feared opponent by most.  Nothing made me more excited to play a war than seeing reflex on the other team.  If sof was basketball, he was wilt mixed with pistol pete and Gilbert Arenas

 

4. xillax - if there's a top5 ross belongs in it

 

3. exe - outkicked my coverage harder than anyone.  I was supposed to be an -={The Egg}=- noob forever.  Nobody else in the world actually believed it would ever be possible to compete against the elite 20 ping euros from across the Atlantic ocean. 

 

I was that kid with the dream.  I started playing sof2 like 18 hours after the demo released... and I remember being blown away that there were already clans.  People were already going 24/3 and 16/2 in packed public servers.  I was behind, but I had already become hands down the best Red Faction player in the world before I turned 10 years old, so I swore I would catch up with the best in Soldier of Fortune too... it took me 7 years tho to be able to truly feel I belonged at the highest level, like the best didn't have anything on me, like when we entered that server, it was my jungle, my home, and I was the apex predator who had to fear none when I was hot.

 

in 2007, I finally felt like I proved to myself that I'm equal to anyone, even against xillax, priest, bornova, sylt, luminaire

after I went up against those 5 of the very best aimers in the game

with like hokie, yoshi, abu, and vari

and clearly had the hottest AK in the server, 

was the MVP on both sides,

dropped 26 in caseroom

22 on blue

hokie started treating me different

trusting me more

and quickly it became obvious over the next few months

before he even told me --

-- that I was his favorite teammate to play with

right at the top of his list /w $nugg

his right hand

all those late night

1on1's in case <--> main against hokie had paid off

that was the time period when I got a new comp

and went from 40-60fps to steady 125+

heard a lot of, "overnight allstar" accusations

 

... but I realized when my shot was on and I was in the zone,

when I was prefiring the way hokie taught me,

I had the aim and the instincts and the discipline to be the most dangerous player in the game on any given day.

I stopped only looking at a 106 ping as a handicap, and started looking at it like a weapon that hok had taught me how to wield and use to my advantage, and after playing together every day since 2003, and going on my 8th year total in the game, I felt that I had finally mastered it.  Then after he died, playing caseroom became personal.  It was sacred to me.  The only way I knew how to honor him.  Taking an ak & getting to that back left pillar... 1hopping it into the benches on the left side of case with tears in my eyes, I felt his presence the whole time.  By 2009 and 2010 there really wasn't a better case player... I'd break 20 kills damn near every single time on red.  you can say I'm making this up, but I know a moment that meant too much to the whole community for all 10 of you to forget. 

 

We waited over a year to play the c4.  -  3v.  final   that got put off after hokie passed.

we joined the server.

I see us on blue side.  I was between the single barrel and the triple barrels by tin, looking off into the distance over patio

 

$nugg had just typed, "rdy?"

 

c4. chose blue

 

Map Restart in: 0:22 . . .

                        : 0:21 . . .

                        : 0:20 . . .

                        : 0:19 . . .

                        : 0:18 . . .

 

so while we waited for the match to start, before I typed /team r in console... I had to do something

 

"exe: this ones for hok

 exe: rest in peace<3

 exe: love you. "

 

                        : 0:12 . . .

                        : 0:11 . . .

                        : 0:10 . . .

                        : 0:09 . . .

                        : 0:08 . . .

 

3v. |Vergote.|                       c4. sKoKo

3v. |xzi.|                                gossip girl

3v. |msg90a1|                       c4. camiel                   

3v. |YoShImItSu.|                  c4. XillaX                    

3v. |m4th|                             c4. indosteel0

 

                        : 0:02 . . .

                        : 0:01 . . . 

 

and there were just tears streaming down my face, but I couldn't care less about that... that moment meant everything to me.  I made a promise I was going to leave it all on the court.  Wasn't going to let hokie down for a single careless second...  had never felt that focused in my entire life.  There was just no where else  in the whole world I would rather be. 

 

me $nugg yosh  yosh and snugg case.

broken math east."

 

I got to the back left pillar in case, and yoshi blew himself up in kitchen.  Everyone else on 3v. died within 7 seconds. 

 

I sat crouched behind the pillar like a noob,

without leaning,

and bet everything on patio peeking first because it was a 1v5. I remember when hokie first discovered that unusual spot in the inflixi days, was a good off-angle that was so dead-center in the middle of the screen that somehow it just works as a superior angle on the patio player.  

 

I could hear and feel enemies already pushing the main door.  patio went down without getting a shot off. 

 

I leaned around the back left pillar now. 

2 were already in case.

the 3rd in main, shooting bravely

 

I leaned to the right and with a slash of 3 bullets in that pool table corner pocket, 2 tapped the one glitching that front right pillar. 

 

Then I cautiously leaned to the left, only far enough so I could see halfway across case, edging it perfectly like I was wallhacking through the pillar, and didn't miss a bullet on the one trying to jump over the benches on the left patio side of case so he could cross deep enough in to have enough leverage to shoot me in my left flank. 

 

then I leaned back around the pillar and executed another that ran in the main door and tried to lean behind the same front right pillar his teammate died at. 

I was whipping my mouse in such a violent yet controlled manner, can still see it, feel it...

as soon as I got one kill it was just instant, was racing to the next, on a fucking MISSION... and I wasn't done yet. 

the 2nd patio player came flying out,

but I had already prefired a bullet there

because with where I was, making my stand behind the back left pillar, I could just feel that patio was the only move he could make at that exact moment that would have put me in check, so I prefired a bullet there before I even checked it.  It hit him... I couldn't believe it because he wasn't on my screen yet when I fired, but the timing couldn't have been more perfect, and I finished the kill and the round with full health. 

 

I thought of Mortal Kombat, because it was like a flawless round... and I was absolutely certain I'd never done that before.  everyone was freaking out in vent, celebrating, but whatever I said, I just remember that it was cold-blooded. 

 

"we're not losing this <sub>FuCKING</sub> game."

 

it was basically an icy whisper.  i wanted to slit throats and leave no prisoners.  I had started crying again... was imagining hok looking down & watching.

The next round, I went to the back left corner again, but leaned on the raised platform this time and did damage to the patio player with 2 bullets through that thin gap while leaning to the right, then immediately pushed up to the left of the podium and finished the kill.  I still had yoshi or $nugg alive in case with me, but 5 seconds later the round crumbled just as quickly again.  I was in a 1v4 again, in the same back left corner of case.  It went the same way, I glitched that pillar better than I ever have, and I just remember a really key kill on the one who should have surprised me from kitchen, he was really quick with it, but with the way patio got owned the round before, I was expecting it and just gambled everything on 1 coming from kitchen.  So when the last  came out kitchen, I was leaning behind cover, got hs'd down to 1mm, but won.  

 

We were up 2-0.  

My score was 10/0.  No one else on the team had a kill.  

the next round our team crumbled very quickly again.  

I was able to get into a good position in the benches on the patio side this time, and got four of the nicest kills of my career, one on pat and 3 in main/trying to push case... but ross did his best lumi impression and came down small with a cooked grenade the second I had decided to push the doorway into main.  I knew how badly we needed that round, and how hard the rest of this match was going to be, how hard rounds were going to be to come by.

 

The score was 2-1.  

I was 14/1... the rest of 3v. was sitting on 0/3

I'd only ever seen lumi have a start like that, when one game in -l-R-Z-l- that I'll never forget he started 15/0 by clutching out the first 3 rounds 1v5 from roof on blue. 

 

c4. [------------]  :   nt exe 

3v. |msg90a1|  :   fuck you.

 

 

I knew it took a lot for them to say that, I knew they genuinely meant that, and i appreciated it, but I didn't want them to be nice to me right then, I was still seeing red, but felt my adrenaline fading, and I didn't want to say ty and let up off the gas

but for the rest of the half, we only picked up one round, right towards the end when we were down like 2-7.  It was on a roof rush where we boosted up the scope and instantly took out the roof player before they knew what hit em.  When the half ended 3-10, our scores didn't look promising.

 

3v. |Vergote.|         -    4/13

3v. |xzi.|                 -   11/12

3v. |m4th|              -    3/13

3v. |msg90a1|       -   18/10

3v. |YoShImItSu.|   -   0/13

 

but on blue... we played our asses off.  It felt like if we hadn't dug ourselves such a deep hole, we had it in the bag for sure.  But losing the 1st half 10-3 meant there was basically no room for error.  The rounds were much tighter this half, but it seemed like every player on our team took turns coming up clutch when we needed it most.

 

yoshi only had 3 kills the whole game, but they were HUGE.  It easily coulda been 3-5 if it wasn't for all the late-round magic on scaffold and ramp that just seemed to go our way because we needed it so bad.  It was 8-0, and we felt like we were so close.  But we dropped the next two.

 

Our cushion was gone.  We went back to what we were good at, and $nugg got double boosted up pat for our 9th round on blue.  I forget what happened after that, but c4. ended up winning by 1 round.  I ended up with like 25 kills on blue, switching back and forth between ak & sniper better than I felt I ever had... tactically we pulled out all the stops in those first 8 rounds, and literally were winning rounds by a blade of grass, a pixel, a millisecond. 

 

I just needed 1 more kill in that first half... but it wasn't meant to be.  I remember afterwards, I felt like I made hokie proud, there wasn't one bad teamplay I made where I left someone hanging, or overreached and cost our team, nor one shot I missed that I felt I shoulda hit.  My aim was on fire, our teamwork was so in-sync, but we just got outplayed by a worthy opponent.  

 

told yoshi after the game,

if I could do it all over again

there's no one on the planet I'd rather go to war with and have by my side

he'd been there with me and hok since the beginning,

I couldn't care less that we lost that cupwar.  we played our hearts out, held nothing back and came up 1 yard short,  like the Titans in the superbowl against the Rams... against the most explosive offense in the history of the game.  We didn't let hok down and that was all that mattered to me.

 

 

 

 

so maybe it doesn't mean much to y'all, but I honestly may have been in more legendary clans than anybody in the history of the game... I wrote out the full list a few months ago and didn't post it, might have saved it, there were so many random ones I had forgotten I was even in until other people mentioned them, but somebody posted a list of like 38 legendary clans/teams in the oldskool clans topic, and I always thought I was as loyal as they come, never thought of myself as a whore like angel, xillax, priest, lumi, borno, but I'd legit been in all 38 of them at some point 

 

PONY,

 -=OG=-  eGang

-l-R-Z-l-

 -oSa-

-=]vK[=- 

.sD' 

 n4p. 

inflixi.

|TuS|

Notag

-={The Egg}=-

=NuKe=

3v.

-HaZe-

  sK.

cC. |she| c4. (for a day)

sL` [B] .|E 

*HtF*   -R-  

.!nfuriating

 

unless you were spectating me the whole time, you couldn't possibly have known the way I knew, but if you're not named speedi, you couldn't possibly have the slightest clue just how consistently dirtyyyyy i got with the scope.  It was to the point that it didn't matter what spot on the map I was, how close the enemy was, I could be on roof outside of small, I basically whittled away every awkward miss that usually gets snipers killed, by getting comfortable in all those uncomfortable close up fights, because I had practiced so many thousands of times taking fights that no one else ever even tried to get good at sniping in.  You would have to either watch all my old demos (I do have some harddrives I need to look at) or if there was some future voyeuristic way I could show you all my memories, but short of that, there's just no way you would ever truly believe the scope of my sniper peak.

 

I'd ask around every time I met someone that was pro from another game in 2008-2011... but I wholeheartedly believe there was not a better PC sniper on the planet at that time.  

and say what you will, you can try to say all of this is insignificant

but the skyline of the gaming world has traces of my touch all throughout it

my name is forever linked to the very fabric at the heart of the underground first person shooter history

 - was the one who named the now 4th largest gaming organization in the world after a legendary sof2 player, luminaire.

- was the one who named the currently #1 largest gaming organization in the world after a legendary sof2 player, ph4ze.

 

2. hokie

 

1. $nugg - best.  3v.  & Avelgem both being in everyone's top2, are because of him... you have to do a lot of things very special to be considered on the same level as [B]illy's and c4 and .|Elite or !nfuriating. He added the most to the team while taking away the least.  He won more clanwars than anyone in the history of the game.  Some may have had a higher win % because they weren't playing with such underdog teams, but there's no chance ref, ross, prsk, or anyone played as many games and won as many clanwars.  Him and butcher without a doubt played more wars together than any other duo,

 

outside maybe

myself and hokie

borno and ceto

rocket and apoc

or

freestyle and zioni

 

reflex just was never that active.  skoko and navy didn't play quite as often.

no one was like avelgem, they'd legit play 12 wars a day, every day, from like 2005 to 2011-2012

even when $nugg would finally start to go inactive,

but butcher would still be steady no-life`ing the game harder than anyone outside of maybe myself, or rocket, the way prodigy or priest was always on all day everyday like I was in 2003-2004 when he was the best player in the game, before he got bored with sof and couldn't be arsed to play unless it was vs. the very best, and even then, tom kinda

 

but rocket was probably the only other person who was  <sup>almost</sup>   as   <sub>addicted</sub>   dedicated to the game as i was from the very start 

although shoutout to skyline too, he wasn't always on quite as much, but I feel like he was always around and witnessed every era 

 ross had phases where he'd go inactive and stuff

freestyle's love for the game was always really pure

 

$nugg was superrr active too, just as much as me and butch, but once he hit his peak and was legit tied for the top spot, #1 player in the game, even with bornovsk and steven, he started to get bored with the game.  He'd lose interest and just refuse to play a lot, sometimes it took a lot of convincing (omg I just remember how you could *NUDGE* on MSN) to get him to agree to play, but every time he was in the lineup I felt like we could conquer the world.

 

He also built Avelgem from the ground up and carried it with his reliable, consistent, always efficient style.  Was a great passive leader that didn't need to have such a commanding presence like hokie, and left room for others like Ross and Mathieu to step up and sort of in a way, where, they knew what he wanted, so he basically got to delegate the tasks of calling over to them, and because it just sounded better when butcher would call it because he was going to be the one leading the charge, while $nugg was doing his thing on roof/patio, it created a different kind of team vibe.  It was kinda like, instead of ur dad ordering you to do something, your little brother says rush straight into the caseroom, don't stop.  Him and free really were the unsung heros of 3v.  $nugg was the best 50 ping player with no ego and unique teamwork.  If SoF2 demo was hockey, he was Gretzky

Edited by executor, 10 March 2021 - 11:05 PM.

[Juul]

fuck you!

[XILLAX]

7. XillaX:
However, he never got back on this skill at some point and lost his touch, which is the reason I can't put him higher on my list.

Hi Steven, I'd like to challenge you to a 1vs1 ! Any time, any place, any game!!!!!!!!!1111#

I'm going to rock your world