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[doctorfunk]

By that logic it should be ranked like this:
1. Demobase Admins or Cupadmins -> 2. Certain cup's admin -> 3. Certain cup's supervisor -> 4. Players

It will be from now on, for the major cups; DNC, CC, TC.

Half of the time it isn't. That's why some players/teams/clans are treated way more easier than others = friendpolitics = corruption. Though it's useless to talk argue about corruption in some little demo game's community. Most of the players won't notice it anyway because nobody gives a fuck about demo game.

You confuse friendly politics with bad admining though I wouldn't agree it was bad.
Times were players ppl want to be friendly with -HaZe- are kinda over you know,
plus Junior had no reason to be biased, he didn't gave a fuck for both of teams,
why should he anyway. You can call that bad decision at most.

and I agree with Niels, it's too soon for him to get unbanned, in my opinion.

One more thing about Dio's case. I just noticed that link of topics doesn't work. So I wonder how is it possible to keep the ban if there are no topics?

http://www.demobase....?showtopic=7573
http://www.demobase....?showtopic=5859

don't be such a bureaucrat btw

[katana.]

amagad im so populair im everywhere in this topic but i just wanna clear something broken, and i dont wanna flame this topic and shit but i remember that game very well! i actually did YOU guys a favor, i think it was you who came too late, like 30 minutes after, (15 minutes over the minimum time) and i still didnt let haze win, then at some point g lagged out, couldnt play anymore, so i let another player who just substited a player from haze (zippa) play again! so infact! it was you guys who messed up 1st, but to take ff's cuz of things like that is weak, and even if i followed the rules, you guys would of lost anyway, since u guys messed up 1st, but thats lame, just play the game and may the best team win! so bit unfair telling me im corrupted wth lol! -.-

[katana.]

1. im not a butbuddy, im a pussymagnet
2. they didnt accept it, I said they should wait, cuz ur members told me you would come ''any minute now'' wich took 15 minutes too long. but still, i didnt give them the ff.
3. you guys were losing and were almost knocked out when g lagged out, and i remember rocket saying we take the ff, there was no 4on4 even mentioned, and thats really really lame to win like that and if you dont agree with that then its pretty sad..and the rule that was ''broken'' by haze was broken by me, i allowed a player that already played in the 1st set and later got replaced by zippa? play instead of gzuz cuz he coudlnt play anymore for some reason, if you think thats a reason big enough to give you guys the ff when you already was losing, well.. thats very sad lol

[bing bang blaow]

1. Dio never played on his real name during his ban period ( means that you could never know he where active, YES HE WAS ACTIVE )
2. He doesn't bother posting here because he's actually the one that thinks that it won't help him anyway
3. If you count this as a lifetime ban or atleast you ain't giving him the parole now, you should also ban me and alot more smh
4. He won't make an account to come flame in here, because all the admins hate him....
5. He never really HACKED fairplay, just used a server command witch alot of people did.

hmm i can go on like this for ages but feel like admins won't even going to read it...

He used a bug in order to cheat with fairplay and never told admins.
It went on pretty long and I am not buying the "I was about to tell the admins"-thing.

PS. He was the only one getting busted with it, if you think alot of people did it - go a head, suspected cheaters topic is free for you to post.

Doctorfunk I know it's hard to believe but Dio will NOT be cheating again seeing as one more mistake would be a permanent ban with no chance to parole anymore anyway, how hard is it to give someone a chance? If he fucks up he's banned instantly anyway.. I see some of the arguements but I been playing with him for half a year now, he has always been on fp and he behaved (atleast from what I've seen).


Btw Doctor, Dio bypassed FP he never hacked it, I don't see Dio capable of hacking fp, I know way more about computers then him and I wouldn't even know how to open or edit the sourcecode of fp.
Btw I'm just wondering, have you ever played versus Dio? No offense but I had never even seen your name a year ago, you made a huge boost on sof and as well on demobase, unless you used another name.



Anyway this was just a reaction to Docterfunk, I've talked with Ze and I know enough at the moment.

Of course it's hard to believe he won't do this anymore considering he had so many chances throughout the years. I remember even some bullshit from older DB the one with blueish design...

"if he hfucks up he's banned instantly anyway" - he already did that, didn't he? He "bypassed" fp during his first ban period, no?

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KATANA? Talking abuot HaZe vs sL at your cup? then you're wrong, haze was late, haze had laggers, haze had too much pause time(over 5min) yet they won somehow. But that's another case and doesn't belong in this topic.


How is it with the admin votes by the way?

[Richard]

An admin has posted he has a chance of parole because everyone who has a lifetime ban has a chance of parole from a certain point in timeline. In my oppinion someone thats banned shouldn't be forced to post in every topic or whatsoever because it would probably just result in flame on him anyway, but there is no reason to not register on demobase and post relevent stuff on the forum now and then to show you've atleast got good will and perhaps have changed.

You might understand that at this moment for an admin its very hard to judge if someone that you never see has changed and has a chance of parole, admins need to be able to 'checkout' dio if you understand what I mean. Also demobase offers people the chance to go on parole because we believe peopel CAN change, but we also expect the banned person to take some initiative himself. He could have talked to admins beforehand, I doubt that admins hate him, myself I have hardly got a biased view on any player.

As far as I see it now, I can't really judge him being changed, perhaps it would be a good thing if he'd register anyhow.

To close this post I just want to say yeah we probably have made mistakes in decisions giving penalties to people, or clans consearning smaller violations, cup violations and flaming, but I and I expect all other admins aim to give everyone a fair chance and judge everyone the same way. I'm always open to feedback because I know, I might make a mistake now and then and always try to learn from the mistakes I make.
We try to do everything with good will, but we can't always satisfy everyone.

[s2hko]

Rocket, may u stop posting please?

[insane]

And just obey the rules

Edited by insane, 03 October 2009 - 12:55 PM.

[bing bang blaow]

Rocket, may u stop posting please?

Why? It's a public forum after all.

[Ze]

I was talking about the game, not about forums.

Yes i know, i was talking to azzy not to you.

He didn't hack it. It's called bypassing. Two different things.

Sorry i can't see the difrence,ur dodging the main idea,he was hacking with fp on. In other words, same shit, diferent smell.

And Ze... I really don't give a fuck. I give a fuck about showing you how fucked up this place is. If I would lick any admin's ass, pay him a bit or do him few favours and then do few suspicious moves with wh on you really think I'd get busted? I'm 110% sure I will be announced as a clean player.

So u actually give a fuck in a way or another. Last sentence made me laugh serious, first u can't point out any situation like that, that's just a product of ur imagination unless your talking in the old days where the admin crew was completly diferent from now,blaming present admins for the past admins mistakes is hilarious, if that's where u going with it. We would ban anyone with the suficient prooves presented,independtly of who that person is. I don't give a fuck about cheaters,no cheater is a "buddie" of mine.

It's some kinda mental disorder for some kids that every time you say something about anybody or anything their reply will just be: "Stop whining." You just point out a fact and you're a whiner already. Like a member of a group, Illuminati, that tries to manipulate the world. Go watch documentals about it.

Now think how many years ago this anticheat stuff started and how many actually used it in the start. Maybe 2 players outta 10 were using it. Others didn't want, also -HaZe- was againist it etc.

Na, if you don't lick someone's balls you can't do shit. Don't believe it? The last +1 unsent for some guy who made posts which were not needed. Team Est @ NC, some cupwar in Katana's cup I think? Where -HaZe- wasn't punished, Xillax bust @ gold (which most of didn't give a fuck), bans removed because player's mate is an moderator / admin. There are many other things.

The community is like Russia. Everything goes like few guys say. Doesn't matter if it's by the community rules, their rules or againist all the rules, and if they break the rules, no punishment will follow. If you want to do something about it, nobody gives a fuck or your life ingame/in community w/e will be hard. No point to explain to you either, because things won't change anyway.

DoctorFunk... I don't even expect you to see it. Look what you said: "so called "friendly politics" etc, I never got banned on db before I became a moderator, or even on a single server." It's a most stupid fact ever in this topic. By your logic: "It's never happened to me, so it probably won't happen (haven't happened) to anybody else either and that 'X' can't be real."

And to Ze... You'll say it again I bet. Now read it with caps: "I, XZI, DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT DIO'S BAN."

Why the fuck ur bringing this up? Your running out of arguments? What does a cup match admin has to do with the demobase admins? Nothing. Demobase cup rules were followed.The cup isn't a demobase responsability,we host it here so it can have a bigger projection and more activity,the cup creator just has to follow some DB guidlines,the rest is up to him.I don't even talk with katana,unless he needs a forum for his cups. Katana buddie of haze lol, seriously..

Oh ye and now if I remember right "DEMOBASE RULES WILL BE USED IN THE CUPS HELD BY DEMOBASE/IN DEMOBASE FORUMS."
So you're wrong about it. Alper gave you another example.

Why should I be banned on demo when I'm hacking in gold?
But now let me ask you a question. Why should I be banned from INF cups while I hacked in ELIM?

Now i got the feeling im talking to a 10y old. i'll leave it very simple for u. Gold isn't mp test. Demobase is basicly all about mptest, we have nothing to do with gold.

One thing about Dio's case. I just noticed that link of topics doesn't work. So I wonder how is it possible to keep the ban if there are no proves?

that was funny tbh.
lol..it's a conspiracy, we delete all the corruption proofs.




Fact: In all your posts u try to make us look like a bunch of corrupts, acusing us of things we haven't done, and when ur beeing asked to present some evidence to back up ur acusations you dodge it and come up with another acusation. Plz be so kind and post all those proofs of the corruption ur talking about and the friend politics,related to the demobase admin crew. Some time ago i even banned a demobase staff member,cause i didn't like his attitude in that specific situation,i guess that's friend politics also.

Fact: You can't point a finger to this recent admin crew that xillax made. Go ahead and talk about the old demobase forums,like if we had any responsability of what went on back in those days.This admin crew is doing a great job in my humble opinion.

Now Dio had his chance, and it's like Richard just said, ur expecting i take ur word that Dio changed? LoL. U still believe in fairies? See,then,believe. And it isn't a couple of wars for your clan that will make me think diferently. Amasing how someone wants parole and don't show his face here,even if he's getting flamed,he always acted in a bad way, spaming mpc download links in forum,using other guy account,hacking with and without fp,who can blame the community for flaming him? Be a man and start from the begining,make a new account and start acting decent,if u want a fresh start that is.

[blue]

Wait, wait, let me get this straight.

The following people wants Dio's ban paroled: Azzy, s2hko, Renzo, Broken and Alper (which obviously is someone else).

Now,
what clan are ya'll in again?

[BladHark]

lol@corrupt
theyre actually giving you prizes to make your 1on1 cup thingie more attractive to people, after failing to host so many cups n yet you're still all about the corruption n all that
anyway admins shud close this with a final verdict as all these posts aren't adding anything to dios situation

[bing bang blaow]

Wait, wait, let me get this straight.

The following people wants Dio's ban paroled: Azzy, s2hko, Renzo, Broken and Alper (which obviously is someone else).

Now,
what clan are ya'll in again?

thank you captain obvious

[s2hko]

So what you are saying is that, I should make myself an account to demobase forums? Do I get it right? You really think you can see if I have changed, when I post maybe few posts a week/month? I mean, come on. Open up your eyes my fellow admins, I have no intentions to keep replying to every god damn topic there is around. I would only post to me or the clan I am in related topics, but there are
really few of them, so what you are asking me is a non sence?
Tell me Ze or Richard, you want me to be like really active in demobase forums? I mean, I can't promise to be active always, since I would have nothing to add to each topic, since I try to avoid the whine and so called "insults/flame". I left demobase forums also, because it was endless whine. And Ze, I haven't had an account in demobase for 1 whole year almost. Unless the part, in January, for 1 week I assume. I am not into visiting and posting daily based there. Of course I know you are not asking me to make some big forum post ratio, but still you are asking me something what has no point, since by few posts, you won't see what I am and what I am not.
More likely you could get to know me by talking in msn for ex. or just having some chat, not by replying in forum.
I never told you guys, that you have to unban me, no, that is not the case. I understand there are some guidelines you have to follow, but you have to understand also me.
I can't play always daily bases, like some of the guys can, like for ex. Butcher? I don't even think he has the time nor the mood to play all the time. So asking me to be active is questionable. I am not just that active enough. All I am really asking is just to consider unbanning me and to let me enjoy and take part also in some cups. Cause, I could be there for certain time, when there is a need
Anyway, it doesn't matter what clan or what ever these guys are from, it is always normal, that some of the guys backs other people up. Besides all the other nonsence you've said rocket. Or who was that, who said that I have been busted 3 times? Non of them is true. I know 2 for certain, if you can prove that I have been busted 3 times, then yes, I gladly will accept it, but I only remember these
two, because back then I lost the interest to the game, since everything was so dark/black/pointless. But it has nothing to do with the present. A lot of you say I have been an immature little kid and so on. Which is false. I was back then yes, but last 2 years I haven't been a jerk as way of acting. I have cheated in some wars, but that has nothing to do with my personality, but with the certain
moods. Okay.
Anyway zE, you and others like are pointing, like I have hacked my whole life when I have not been on FP/MT. I can ensure you that it is not truth. I was clean always, till the FP bust. + actually it was said to shifty that to fix it. I can't really remember who had to say it, but I waited 2 weeks before I started to abuse it. Some knew that I use it, because I even told them that.
I understand it was lame, but I thought it might be a way to go on then, if nothing is being done to stop it. And yet, you only have 2 wars where you guys have busted me. I mean, there have been also other demos of me in suspected cheaters, they where proven clean, but these 2 are the only ones which are said hack. So actually, where do you get this
"i have ruined peoples game fun". I mean crushing server ruins more + freezing rcon. I mean, you cant even war then + so far you can accuse me ruining 2 wars, but 1 of the wars is wrong. The last bust, can't agree with it. But it is admins choice, so I accept it. I didn't make a big deal out of it or did I? No.
Therefor, if you say I have to make the account, then I shall make it, if you "admins" think it will help anything, but I am sure it could cause more accusations + more spam and endless flame wars. Not by me, but from others. I mean, each my post will be for many like "oh come on, stop with the lies" and so on or just like "shut up".
Anyway, thanks for the support from some of the guys. I never asked them to come here and defend me. No, I didn't even want that. All I wanted was that Skok could post it for me, since Doc said me, that I can choose how I do it, so I told him also that I'll let someone else to post it for me. Anyway, sorry for the inconvience this topic has caused, but can't blame me for it.


Dio.

[adrenaLine]

Wait, wait, let me get this straight.

The following people wants Dio's ban paroled: Azzy, s2hko, Renzo, Broken and Alper (which obviously is someone else).

Now,
what clan are ya'll in again?

let me guess.. wait wait... rush 2 victory?

[executor]

If you could read then you'd see "I DO NOT GIVE A FUCKEDY FUCK!"
I'm just pointing out that half of your rules are big fucking failures + it's all about friendpolitics in this community.
Want another good exaple? The kid who got another unsent because he spammed.

It would be same as I just register to this community and spam and post some harsh posts to every single person and get banned in SOF2MPdemo while I'm not even playing it. "You will get +1 unsent for beeing lame!" <--- GG!

Plus +1 unsent and usual warnings for spam while some of the moderators spam 24/7 and won't get punished. Atleast come up with some PROPER rules which everybody can see and every single person in this community should follow them. Not that if you're some kinda Xillax's or any other admin's buttbuddy or an admin/moderator you won't be punished.

Atm it's like living in Russia. Dictatorship.

yeah no shit its all about friendpolitics in this community, but that works both ways. The admins might have removed butcher's ban because he hasnt done anything stupid in the past few months (besides he was never addicted to cheating, just obsessed with the game) and yeah theres no way dio's ever getting unbanned because EVERYBODY hates dio if you have to play against him, off fp. The only reason your writing pages of bullshit broken is because you're dio's friend and you'll say whatever it is you have to in order to get dio unbanned. Just like when somebody tries to bust any Estonian, and you got 30 estonian geeks posting in the topic that havent even watched it "clean, you must be retarded" when hes looking through walls and shit

so stfu with the friendpolitics excuse, your part of that problem too