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ALL!!!! s4a members agree its a hack,noone is defending him,just the fact that we didn t kick him.thats all!

Someone said S4A kicks hackers. If you agree it's a hack then why's he not being kicked? Hmmm.

I'm glad some S4A members agree that it's a hack and that he should be kicked. This drama has got way out of control, holy shit. I've never seen so many people defend one hacker before. Also, fuck you wooxed. Where's you get that screen shot from? I don't hate S4A, I just disagree with them in an asshole fassion rofl.

<-- My face when S4A gets all personal and abusive over Dave hacking. If S4A keeps hackers in their clan, you're right It's between you guys to sort out. I believe you didn't deal with it in the correct manor. He should be kicked. Every other none S4A member agrees.

Also I would like to mention we put effort in preventing hackers to play, we even have sent the so called "fp-bypasser" to the fairplay-staff to report it and we hoped they would be able to patch fairplay so this program will not work anymore. Yet we get no support at all from them, and it seems they have stopped working on it. I don't know their motives for it, maybe they got other things on their agenda or just don't want to anymore. But it sure would help if it wouldn't be so easy to bypass or hack fairplay. Not everyone got a strong mind or morals to keep himself from the temptation of cheating as the past has showed us.

Bypassing and hacking are the same thing. Saying Dave bypassed Fairplay doesn't change the fact that he's a hacker.

Come on be reasonable..
Saying we tolerate hackers in S4A are big words imo..
We kicked alot of people from our clan for cheating.
Never the less, this is cheating aswel and it's sad!
Fairplay is a program to make the game as equal as possible for every player.. bypassing=shit

I might have believed your statement about S4A not tolerating hackers had S4A members not be here right now defending hackers. Not only do S4A tolerate hackers but they openly defend them too.

I'm not hating or abusing S4A in anyway. I am simply reporting a hacker and I am being abused for it. I am not calling anyone a dickhead or an asshole. Dave should be punished for using programs to get 333fps by hacking fairplay. If Dave really cared about S4A like you say then he wouldn't be disrespecting you guys like this. Nobody is jealous of S4A, I assure you. Everyone just has no respect for S4A and this is one of the reasons why. I'm sorry if the truth hurts guys. You really need to kick Dave for hacking. Also, of course everyone is going to agree with me. They're not going to defend a hacker like S4A members are doing.

I think the best solution is to refuse to play against hackers. That's pretty much all you can do.

For example, take the S4A clan. They tolerate hackers in their clan. Do not play against hackers. Do not war against them. Do not play in their servers. Consider banning them in your server.

Also, I'd like to mention something else. If a player is using a 333 FPS hack, you might think this is not a big deal. This is likely the tip of the iceberg: this player is probably using an aimbot and/or wallhack as well (or this player would use it, given the opportunity). Therefore any kind of cheat should be handled identically.

The Demobase admins are doing a very poor job in my opinion. They should cup ban these players just to make a statement, even if they don't play cups.

Absolutely agreed with everything you just said. What people don't realize is when you say the word "hack" they immediately think of wallhack and aimbot. Dave's 333fps might not be a big deal, but he took the time to HACK fairplay and find ways around the anti-cheat program. People don't understand that if you spend your time finding ways to hack fairplay, they're obviously going to see what else they can get away with. This is hacking. If you can use 333fps with fairplay, you're hacking. You HACKED the program. You're a cheater. I really thought S4A had more sense than this and would kick him. I won't play against a clan that has people openly hacking in their clan. Also, in future cups I believe they shouldn't participate and should be banned from it. Also, I believe for the next RPM or fairplay (I don't know which one would deal with this)I believe they should FORCE showfps so you can find the people who are using 333fps. If you make showfps forced, they won't use 333 anymore without risk of being caught. Make it so you can't hide fps.