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#121 katana.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:18 PM

@seych, i wouldnt necessarily say its not as competitive as in the golden years, but there is definitely a dicrease on the amount of good players left, that are active enough to be counted in. activity is there but most of the times you just have to settle for easier opponents. we do have less and less clans each cup it feels that participate every year tho, also IMO only around 20 ish players (most of them 2 or 3 diff teams) with any random lineup will get my juices going in a clanwar these days, in the past we had easily 7+ teams (haze c4 3v sk eN (real one) she etc that could win any other team with a good enough line up, regardless how good the other team was, so i see where your getting at, but these days its easy to counterfit that issiue to make it less boring, apart from c4 code and perhaps B, every team in sof has some weak links with theyre best possible line up wich makes it more interesting insvetead of raping everyone 20-5 every single war with an elite lineup, i must say tho if we banned teams, shit would be way more active and we could easily achieve 10+ clans with super sayan powers again ;D

but yah i kinda agree with everyone on most points, and on my final note i just wanna say that camham is still the biggest whore that adds +20 min to every war i play vs him and i agree with seych, and dont lie steven, you must get frustrated too when he does that shit everyime dont lie :D even junior is a better overall value to c4's team haha, so no seych, not that much has changed on that too :x

but on a serious note, i think we should play this cup like its our last cause you never know when the last one is, and were closer then ever, but far from dead! peace hugs and kisses oxoxoxo

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:55 PM

but yah i kinda agree with everyone on most points, and on my final note i just wanna say that camham is still the biggest whore that adds +20 min to every war i play vs him and i agree with seych, and dont lie steven, you must get frustrated too when he does that shit everyime dont lie :D even junior is a better overall value to c4's team haha, so no seych, not that much has changed on that too :x


you are underestimating both junior and especially camiel with this comment. Camiel doesnt 'add' 20 minutes to each war as he usually wins the situations he tries to play out.. aka winning time by winning rounds lol. And no, in all honesty, camiel barely ever frustrates me by playing out his situations, because hes good at them (same goes for lumi - you need a player that wins rounds you dont expect to win.. every clan has atleast one of these kinda players. Saying junior is a better value to c4's team is totally incorrect, as camiel is our starplayer together with skoko at this moment and its always noticable when camiel isnt playing against a good opponent these days..

the 'even' junior part is also false as he is infact an important asset to our team aswell. his calling and his way of giving other players space to play in is essential. he might be our little spongebob, but he does give other players the opportunity to excell.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:58 PM

@seych, i wouldnt necessarily say its not as competitive as in the golden years, but there is definitely a dicrease on the amount of good players left, that are active enough to be counted in. activity is there but most of the times you just have to settle for easier opponents. we do have less and less clans each cup it feels that participate every year tho, also IMO only around 20 ish players (most of them 2 or 3 diff teams) with any random lineup will get my juices going in a clanwar these days, in the past we had easily 7+ teams (haze c4 3v sk eN (real one) she etc that could win any other team with a good enough line up, regardless how good the other team was, so i see where your getting at, but these days its easy to counterfit that issiue to make it less boring, apart from c4 code and perhaps B, every team in sof has some weak links with theyre best possible line up wich makes it more interesting insvetead of raping everyone 20-5 every single war with an elite lineup, i must say tho if we banned teams, shit would be way more active and we could easily achieve 10+ clans with super sayan powers again ;D

but yah i kinda agree with everyone on most points, and on my final note i just wanna say that camham is still the biggest whore that adds +20 min to every war i play vs him and i agree with seych, and dont lie steven, you must get frustrated too when he does that shit everyime dont lie :D even junior is a better overall value to c4's team haha, so no seych, not that much has changed on that too :x

but on a serious note, i think we should play this cup like its our last cause you never know when the last one is, and were closer then ever, but far from dead! peace hugs and kisses oxoxoxo



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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:00 PM

Junior - 27/37 Ratio: 0.73 | Matches Played: 2 (1-1)

I'm just gonna leave this here. LOL.. ps: ONLY PLAYER ON c4 who has negative ratio except navy who hasnt played in years

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:12 PM

This game truly isn't anywhere near as competitive as it used to be. Firstly there's hardly like 4 actually competitive clans, the others just have good days every now and then and even these "competitive" clans hardly ever play and if they do it's apparently some random maps or a completely different game. Skillwise it's really hard to say, would assume skillwise its better or the same it ever was. Nowadays people making crazy jumps, using vent/mumble/ts, staring down while running with binds, glitching a lot better positions than ages ago, no-one is really even pushing conf anymore (apart from abu). And all this luminaire-like play style with staying back, nading and glitching truly beats all the older playing styles, so would assume even the weaker clans nowadays could quite easily beat the old greats, if time travel was possible that is.

Random maps eh? Get your head out of your ass.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:16 PM

funny that everybody thinks its about ratio!

its about the teamwork. i rather have a player like junior that is on mumble and reports good than a slightly better player like angel who doesn't want to use mumble or report for that behave as he can only use his teambinds.

but hey, thats just me.

before he broke his pc (lazy fuck) he actually made a great difference as he is a solid conference player like me.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:18 PM

usually steven? lol. maybe vs really weak teams but whenever i play vs c4 its always like that and he usually loses when its 1vs2 or more, not just him more players are like that and i dont mind it when its a cupwar or really really tense but its soooo boooring when the match is pretty much decided or the round doesnt matter, and i actually gave junior a compliment lol..says more about junior and you how you see him so thats kinda OWNED, but ye dont flatter yourself lol your so easy to kill makes me wonder how a person can stay so bad after playing for so long, steven is calling you theyre little bitch in conf except he uses kinder words :D but i just ment i rather have a team player then some rambo dude who thinks he can win a war by himself by whoring ;x

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:25 PM

wtf machete, do you re-read your own posts? i suggest you do. You make my retarded hunchbacked redheaded stepchild sounds like a normal individual. What you on 65 kg dogg?
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:31 PM

let me break it down for you, i know they are kinda slow in groningen

teamplayer > whoreplayer
proplayer > suxplayer
teamsuxplayer > whoreproplayer

i assume thats what you ment?

ofcourse not everyone believes in that, each to his own right, get some dogg

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:34 PM

i didn't read your post, so i have no idea what you mean. But hell, gimme some dogg.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:05 PM

black person plzzzzz even on this shitty laptop with 40 fps and wireless internet im decent. Am i still on ur mind 24/7 bitch?

negero please, don't play that laptop card

I played this war on my 15" laptop and I played without sounds, but we started anyways. Might have slightly better graphic card than u tho, which is from 2008 :P

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But I like how the topic turned from Doc's flaming into a decent discussion about demo history and activity! I agree that teams should be disbanded and banned. Stick to one clan. aka CODE converts into a clan :blush:

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:09 PM

the 'even' junior part is also false as he is infact an important asset to our team aswell. his calling and his way of giving other players space to play in is essential. he might be our little spongebob, but he does give other players the opportunity to excell.



wonder how a person can stay so bad after playing for so long, steven is calling you theyre little bitch in conf except he uses kinder words :D


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:14 PM

But I like how the topic turned from Doc's flaming into a decent discussion about demo history and activity! I agree that teams should be disbanded and banned. Stick to one clan. aka CODE converts into a clan :blush:


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:15 PM

Goodgame s3'5 nice try c4

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:18 PM

usually steven? lol. maybe vs really weak teams but whenever i play vs c4 its always like that and he usually loses when its 1vs2 or more, not just him more players are like that and i dont mind it when its a cupwar or really really tense but its soooo boooring when the match is pretty much decided or the round doesnt matter, and i actually gave junior a compliment lol..says more about junior and you how you see him so thats kinda OWNED, but ye dont flatter yourself lol your so easy to kill makes me wonder how a person can stay so bad after playing for so long, steven is calling you theyre little bitch in conf except he uses kinder words :D but i just ment i rather have a team player then some rambo dude who thinks he can win a war by himself by whoring ;x


?, how can you say ''thats the way you see him'' lol.. theres a reason that hes always playing in cups with all the teams/clans hes been in.
Also how is saying: ''even junior is better than him'' a compliment lol, you're obviously taking the piss from junior when saying ''even junior''.
Camiels teamwork isnt bad or anything, he plays good wherever you put him, its just that we actually like him to perform to his own limits (which is by giving him space to play his own game aka your definition of whoring) instead of sacrificing him to the team :)

and lol at the bitch part, by using logic like that all the defensive teamsport players in the world would be the bitch of the attacking teamsport players as they get to do the dirty work. you need someone like that in every team.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:19 PM

But I like how the topic turned from Doc's flaming into a decent discussion about demo history and activity! I agree that teams should be disbanded and banned. Stick to one clan. aka CODE converts into a clan :blush:


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:34 PM

Hahahahahaha katana, such walls of texts with so little meaning

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:42 PM

?, how can you say ''thats the way you see him'' lol.. theres a reason that hes always playing in cups with all the teams/clans hes been in.

Also how is saying: ''even junior is better than him'' a compliment lol, you're obviously taking the piss from junior when saying ''even junior''
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Camiels teamwork isnt bad or anything, he plays good wherever you put him, its just that we actually like him to perform to his own limits (which is by giving him space to play his own game aka your definition of whoring) instead of sacrificing him to the team :)

and lol at the bitch part, by using logic like that all the defensive teamsport players in the world would be the bitch of the attacking teamsport players as they get to do the dirty work. you need someone like that in every team.

yes, he was leader of bro?, and he's c4's relative, that sums it up i think ;D but sure he can have other quality's in a war i guess that you or skoko like, cause there are far better players you could use, i think? anyone will do :P

well that one is not so hard tbh..obviously camham is a better player then junior but id take junior over cam anytime of the week,
the ''even'' is a comparison between the gap of skills between them, to say that was insulting him was up to how you interpret it..
but id say playing for so long and remaining on the same level is kinda bad.. ;(

its whoring to me if its not a winning tactic.. simple math tbh, succes rate: less then 51% = whoring, no one in this game can achieve that number.. just pure whoring.

you forgot this is a game and not a sport.. if you play the ''frontline'' in a game is being the bitch of a clan to me..you say he helps your team that way (altough i dont see how) is still, being the ''bitch'' to me where is the fun in that lol!

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:46 PM

Fantasy all over the place seych, as I played you like 3 times in cups which we won by a huge difference in points.
Katana, you are just one of many whining about my playstyle, because it is effective, aswell in 5on5's as 1on1's.
Not gonna write a whole report about my playingstyle, but if you consider me either as a whore or a bad/normal player you have shit in your eyes and I know why that is. It's fun to play with c4. and it's mostly boring to play with teams so you can only assume things, because you played against me like 1000 times and only played with me like 10 times.
I do understand you guys being all full with hate towards me, though it has to be based on my performance only, because I haven't had a conversation or history with any of you guys, so it can't be my personality.
Only advice is try harder in cups and try to speak with aim instead of words, because it's not really something that hurts. It's stupid to lose versus a noob, but it's not stupid to get dissed by a noob, because it's a noob anyways.
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:50 PM

yes, he was leader of bro?, and he's c4's relative, that sums it up i think ;D but sure he can have other quality's in a war i guess that you or skoko like, cause there are far better players you could use, i think? anyone will do :P

well that one is not so hard tbh..obviously camham is a better player then junior but id take junior over cam anytime of the week,
the ''even'' is a comparison between the gap of skills between them, to say that was insulting him was up to how you interpret it..
but id say playing for so long and remaining on the same level is kinda bad.. ;(

its whoring to me if its not a winning tactic.. simple math tbh, succes rate: less then 51% = whoring, no one in this game can achieve that number.. just pure whoring.

you forgot this is a game and not a sport.. if you play the ''frontline'' in a game is being the bitch of a clan to me..you say he helps your team that way (altough i dont see how) is still, being the ''bitch'' to me


everybody in c4 is everybodys relative (or well basically everybody i guess.
but ur seriously underestimating camiels abilities lol, he ll play anywhere u want him to and with every style u want him to play if he likes you and listens to you..
and fair enough, its your own opinion and im probably not going to be the one to change it, but I seriously believe that jr helps the team by playing the way he does. just like camiel helps the team by playing the way he does
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