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[SyLt]

seems hd4000 is just 70% better graphics than hd3000 according to this chinese sample test
http://en.expreview....test/21214.html

still trash but it will work for my future laptop!

[Butcher]

Also waiting for new ultrabooks with ivy bridge to come out.
And harper the xps 15z is a nice machine indeed!

[azzy]

I'm happy to have a dualcore pc now rather than my singlecore shit, fuck you guys with ur fancy computers LOL

price : 200$

[KaSS]

since theres an ongoin topic here i figured id make myself smart here, so here it goes:

I bought myself a laptop in the beginning of october. Since im travelling a lot i went for a 14" dell (Dell Vostro 1440). Heres where the trouble starts, playing sof my fps goes down from 80-100 (stable) to like 20-40 for a split second and then back to the around 80 which makes me lag. i also dled to COD 4 cus sum of the sof ppl started playing cod again. my fps in cod 4 is around 30-40 (normally, but steven helped me with sum cfg to get it up to 80 which is also kinda playable but still not good tbh). So i searched for possibilities what i could do and came upon 2 possibilites - 1) an external graphics card 2) buy a big pc that runs sof with stable 125 and gives me decent fps on cod 4.

I also searched the web for external graphics but didnt find too much. the one ext gpx i found costs around 350 € (donno if its true btw). Now i need help with deciding which way to go - buy an external gpu for 350 that i can carry along whereever i go or have a big pc built for 350 € (the price of external gpx i found) and then eventually give it to pep or someone who wants it once i go home cus im not gonna ship it

P.S also to clear up, i have no knowledge of how compatible the ext cards are with different models and such and how easy it is to install em.

Specs of my Dell:
Processor: Intel Core i3-370M Processor (2.4GHz, Dual Core/4 Threads, 3MB L3 Cache)
Memory: 2GB, DDR3, 1333MHz, 1 DIMM
Storage: 320GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
Screen: 14.0 inch LED Display (1366 x 768) with anti-glare
Battery: 6-Cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Wireless: 802.11 b/g/n/BT3.0 Networking Combo Card
Graphics: Intel HD Graphics
Color: London Slate
Optical Drive: 8X DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive
Ports: Network connector RJ45, VGA, HDMI, (3) USB 2.0, AC adapter connector, Headphone jack, Microphone jack, Audio jack, 3-in-1 card reader
Web Cam: Integrated HD Webcam and Digital Array Mic with Dell Webcam Central
Weight: 4.8lbs
Dimensions: 13.5” x 9.6” x 1.24” – 1.37” (Width x Depth x Thickness)

So can someone smart explain dat shizzle for me and give me some advice what to do. my goal is to get 125 stable on sof and decent fps in COD 4. i couldnt care less bout anything else

and i only need a temporary solution for the upcomin 7-8 months. after that im gonna go back home (probably) and once im home ima get a decent big PC. Thats why also the "not putting too much money in" part

regards
KaSS

Edited by KaSS, 21 February 2012 - 09:38 PM.

[KaSS]

i know the previous post is a bit messy but i guess you'll understand what i mean and what i want so post away guys

oh and im not gonna buy myself a new laptop if u try to tell me to get a gamers laptop

Edited by KaSS, 21 February 2012 - 09:27 PM.

[Butcher]

Intel hd shares the videomemory with your ram memory. With 4GB of ram your performance would have been alot better, check if you can upgrade it with dell (prolly around 50 euros).

[SyLt]

that dont think that will speed his games up! a game like sof doesnt need more memori

i have no idea how good the external graphic cards are. rely on reviews o0


yea why not buying a 350€ pc to pep? best performance for the money tbFh

[katana.]

didnt know laptops could do that :x if theyre not too expensive kass u should def buy an external gfx card (just look up some reviews on good cards in ur budget) your pc will have stable fps on sof and cod4 100%! like butcher said, maybe add 2 extra gigs in there if u can, and ur ''lag'' of 1-2 seconds is most likely overheating problem like most laptops, maybe add a nice fan or something for ur laptop.

in short:

gfx card
2 gig ram
fan/cooler

= good fps

[KaSS]

i suppose u can also get a big pc for 350 that runs sof with stable 125 and also cod 4 with playable fps, but id eventually end up giving it away basically. thats why the thought of an external graphics. But i did sumn research and didnt come up with much and imm also rather dumb considering such things therefore posted it here


then gimme links of reviews

Edited by KaSS, 21 February 2012 - 10:53 PM.

[Jesa-]

Intel hd shares the videomemory with your ram memory. With 4GB of ram your performance would have been alot better, check if you can upgrade it with dell (prolly around 50 euros).

Yes, the Intel HD is the problem but adding memory won't help.

Edited by Jesa-, 22 February 2012 - 05:57 AM.

[Jesa-]

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I also searched the web for external graphics but didnt find too much. the one ext gpx i found costs around 350 € (donno if its true btw). Now i need help with deciding which way to go - buy an external gpu for 350 that i can carry along whereever i go or have a big pc built for 350 € (the price of external gpx i found) and then eventually give it to pep or someone who wants it once i go home cus im not gonna ship it
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Aren't those external graphics cards only meant to work with specific laptops? Anyway, if you're a DIY person, you can make an eGPU by yourself! http://forum.noteboo...xperiences.html

[KaSS]

Aren't those external graphics cards only meant to work with specific laptops? Anyway, if you're a DIY person, you can make an eGPU by yourself! http://forum.noteboo...xperiences.html

ye thats what i meant, thats why i was askin.

and whats tthe underlined part in english that normal ppl speak

[Jesa-]

DIY = Do-It-Yourself
eGPU = external Graphics Processing Unit aka external graphics card

[KaSS]

thx, harper actually already was kind enough to clear it up for me.

what would u do in my situation Jesa ? The goal is to get 125 stable and i got the dell

[Jesa-]

Depends on your budget. With 350€ you can get a decent SOF/COD pc if you already own a display and a Windows license. Just take SOF2 Gamer 125 fps and replace the graphics card with whatever you can afford, e.g. Radeon HD 6670. If you don't have a display and license, i'd go with the DIY option.

[Replay!]

This topic is about different kinds of gaming rigs because lately there has been a lot of discussion buying new pc's. If you're planning a new gaming rig, this topic offers some ready-made configurations that can be modified. Also you can discuss your own pc hardware related ideas here. I chose Azerty to be the example site because 99% of demobase speak dutch and Azerty happens to have their prices in euros. I'll update the original post based on feedback, when there's something new on the market and I have the time.

First off I'll give you the glorious SOF2 Gamer 125 FPS rig!

SOF2 Gamer 125 FPS

Motherboard: ASRock H61M-VS
Processor: Intel Pentium G620
Graphics card: XFX Radeon HD 5450
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM DDR3 1333 MHz 1x4GB
Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 250GB
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX430 V2
DVD: Samsung SH-222AB

Winkelmandje (Shopping Cart)

Cost: ~300€ (No operating system included)

I picked the cheapest sensible parts that would run SOF2 @ stable 125 fps and put them together. Now you can go and half the memory if you wish, but then you'd pretty much save nothing. 4GB of memory is the minimum that a modern PC should have. A case is of course a matter of taste but Fractal Design Core 1000 offers great value for it's price thus it got picked. I wouldn't recommend choosing a cheaper PSU either because most of them are crap and are not protected well enough from causing damage to rest of the computer if something goes wrong. PSU is the most important part of your PC!

You can get a SSD instead of a HDD by sacrificing space which will speed up your pc a lot (doesn't affect FPS!): OCZ Agility 3 60GB


Serious Gamer Non-Overclocker

PSU: XFX Core Edition PRO550W
DVD: Samsung SH-222AB
Case: Fractal Design Define R3
Graphics card: Gigabyte GF 560 Ti 448 cores
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM DDR3 2x4GB 1333 MHz
Processor: Intel i5 2400 3.1 GHz
Motherboard: Asrock H61DE/S3

Winkelmandje (Shopping Cart)

Cost: 800€ (No operating system included)

This is a serious gaming rig for non-overclockers that runs any current game. To be realistic, you can't max out details in the heaviest of games but still this one offers a very good performance for it's prize. It features the new 448 cores version of Geforce 560 Ti, 4-core processor and 8GB of RAM. I'd say this rig has a 3-4 year life span gaming-wise if you upgrade the graphics card after the second year.


Serious Gamer Overclocker

PSU: XFX Core Edition PRO550W
DVD: Samsung SH-222AB
Case: Fractal Design Define R3
Graphics card: Gigabyte GF 560 Ti 448 cores
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3
Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 2x4GB 1600 MHz
Processor: Intel i5 2500K 3.3 GHz
Motherboard: Asrock Z68 Pro3 Gen3
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus

Winkelmandje (Shopping Cart)

Cost: 890€ (no os included)

This is the Serious Gamer Overclocker. The Asrock motherboard provides basic overclocking functions for a casual overclocker. i5 2500K is known for it's potential to reach 5 GHz overclock and above. Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus is a great mid-price cooler that satisfies the needs of a casual overclocker. I'd say the life span gaming-wise for this one is 4 to 5 years if you upgrade the graphics card later on.


DB Enthusiast

Case: Antec Performance One P183 V3
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.4 GHz
Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600Mhz 4x4 GB
Graphics card: Asus HD7970 DC2
SSD: Samsung 830 Series 120 GB
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12P
DVD: Samsung SH-222AB
PSU: Super Flower Golden King Platinum 550W

Winkelmandje (Shopping Cart)

Cost: 1600€ (no os included)

This is the DB Enthusiast. It costs but it also delivers. You can mix it up with Gamer Overclocker to bring the price down if needed. The main differences are better case, graphics card and processor, SSD included, a modular platinum efficiency rate PSU and double the RAM. If it's mainly for gaming, I'd recommend having 2500K instead of 2600K because you won't need Hyper-Threading while playing games.

Ur not cheap

Www.computergalaxy.nl Same price beter PC's ( Its a dutch site )

[Jesa-]

Ur not cheap

Www.computergalaxy.nl Same price beter PC's ( Its a dutch site )

I gave it a quick look, found 0 cheaper + better PC's in the same price range as those I've put together.

[Butcher]

Demobase laptop:

http://www.notebookt...odel-p-314.html

[Jesa-]

Updated! SOF2 Gamer cheaper than ever before and also some minor updates on the other rigs too. Looking forward to Geforce 6xx series and the probable upcoming price cuts on AMD graphics cards.

[katana.]

replacing the G620 with the G530 saves u like 20$

Edited by katana., 21 March 2012 - 03:19 PM.