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[luminoKo]

All listen now u scumbugs. First of all everyone should wear what he or she want. We cant make decisions for other people, because we dont like it. If they wanna wear a Burka because of Islamic reasons, we have to respect that. Maybe you dont like it what she wears. But 2 bad for you, because maybe she or he doenst like also what you wear.

This is already controversial.
If people would wear a suit from Germany with the nazi swastika on it a lot of people would feel uncomfortable.
Also the police would probably take this person with them to the police station for interrupting the public.
But once there is someone with a burka walking nothing happends.
Personally I don't mind that, but there are people who find this unfair.
Even though the difference is that one suit stands for the nazi period and one for the religion, there is a limit with freedom in wearing clothes.
Some people remind burkas to muslims and remind that again with the terrorists and they get scared on the streets watching them.
Once again personally for me that's ridiculous, but just mentioning people think like that.

Some people say that wearing a Burka is supressing the women. If a woman wears a Burka without any influence of other people, then i cant do else then respect her decision. Just like you guys have to do.

I think the most normal people of us do, but we are raised like that we make conversations with other people by seeing eachothers face at least.
So I can imagine there are people finding it uncomfortable to talk against them.
That is in France the biggest problem and there is a lot of controversial going on there now.
They want to forbid it by law, which even succeeded if I can remember from the news.

So the question is are norms and values having priority above religion?
A very difficult point, but interesting to discuss about.

This isn't really anything for us to judge about

That's right, but having a opinion is something we all do.
And it's not bad to share thoughts about it.

[doctorfunk]

idc what she wears in her home

but for safety reasons face shouldn't be covered I mean some muslim woman in burka commits a crime like hit and run, good luck identifying her. Also taking id/passport picture with this thing on would not be very effective.

[katana.]

I remember in my high school karl kani clothes got banned because the school banned the lonsdale brand.. -.-
Karl kani has nothing to do with anything what so ever..neither does lonsdale but they used it as ''laat ons nederlanders de allochtonen langzaam executeren'' basicly meaning ''let us dutch people slowly execute the foreigners''
Kid stuff basicly..pick a brand and make up some dumb shit -.- So the lonsdalers whined about it and the school decided to bann karl kani clothes to make them happy..

Banning burka's, jewish hats or w.e is just as retarded as banning lonsdale and karl kani clothes.
You just have to respect your fellow man, wether its religion or personal, let them be.
If its a matter of security, then by all means do what must be done.
But to bann people to just walk around on the street with a piece of cloth on theyre head
Is so stupid i cant even wrap my head around..(get it)

[doctorfunk]

you are right katana
although it is even more retarded to wear burka

[~ACER*]

Law, it need to be possible to see who it is lol

[luminoKo]

But to bann people to just walk around on the street with a piece of cloth on theyre head

This is a big sentence you're speaking.

How do you guys think about the nazi uniform if you see it in a supermarket?
I don't have any family directly involved in that period, but I can understand people would get sick and will probably get mad and call the police to get rid of that person.
A piece of cloth doesn't only have to be for religion matters, it can also be led from wars like WW II or racewars like the Ku Klux Clan.

[doctorfunk]

Law, it need to be possible to see who it is lol

http://kleinverzet.b...rimination.html
;p

btw +/- zero
fortunately we live in mono-cultural society in Poland.. if people come to Poland they have to adjust to our culture, learn some of the customs/language.. when there are large masses of people emigrating to another society; that results in shitloads of problems for both(Holland/France). At least this is my point of view... Imo I'm lucky I don't have to deal with it.

[KaSS]

sry im hating but i think u don qualify posting in this subforum acer.

you cal always prove me wrong though so im curiously waiting


TROLOLO

[asrael]

Theres a HUGE difference Lumi, between wearing a burka and wearing a nazi suit. You surely must see that

[~ACER*]

sry im hating but i think u don qualify posting in this subforum acer.

you cal always prove me wrong though so im curiously waiting


TROLOLO

What part that i posted here was not related ore complete bullshit?
+ if you even think that you find anything proof me wrong.

Now go back to the shoutbox ^^

[doctorfunk]

Theres a HUGE difference Lumi, between wearing a burka and wearing a nazi suit. You surely must see that

Nazi suits don't cover the face?

But ye this is a hard subject.. basically in between personal freedom and public laws..
Tbh so many laws violate our personal freedom, basically every rule does. But if if it's for significant public good, then perhaps in some cases personal freedom should be limited(like having a gun when you are mentally unstable etc, or wearing a mask in public?)

[Foxdie]

Theres a HUGE difference Lumi, between wearing a burka and wearing a nazi suit. You surely must see that

difference being id rather see a nazi uniform than a burka ski mask burglar

[katana.]

This is a big sentence you're speaking.

How do you guys think about the nazi uniform if you see it in a supermarket?
I don't have any family directly involved in that period, but I can understand people would get sick and will probably get mad and call the police to get rid of that person.
A piece of cloth doesn't only have to be for religion matters, it can also be led from wars like WW II or racewars like the Ku Klux Clan.

Why is it a big sentence?

If you mean that you could say the same about the KKK or nazi clothes, you are right, but by the difference between the meaning of the clothes makes it a, excuse my french, stupid comparison.

@Acer, it's the law for people wearing religious clothes to show they're face when they walk in a bank because they need to identify themselve. Outside of the world where id doesnt matter it should not be an issiue. I could just as easily wear a cap, sunglasses and a hood and be just as consealed as a person wearing a burka.

[doctorfunk]

@Acer, it's the law for people wearing religious clothes to show they're face when they walk in a bank because they need to identify themselve. Outside of the world where id doesnt matter it should not be an issiue. I could just as easily wear a cap, sunglasses and a hood and be just as consealed as a person wearing a burka.

according to author of this article; http://kleinverzet.b...rimination.html
it is illegal in Holland to wear a dress covering the face in public

[~ACER*]

@Acer, it's the law for people wearing religious clothes to show they're face when they walk in a bank because they need to identify themselve. Outside of the world where id doesnt matter it should not be an issiue. I could just as easily wear a cap, sunglasses and a hood and be just as consealed as a person wearing a burka.

Part true, heard also about it.

But i thought it was also the same with a mask. The police tolerate it with carnaval but not duuring the while year.
If you know what i mean with it haha.
The thing with the burka is its not allowed but it its to ''new'' for real rules about it ? and is tolerated...

The differents between allowed and tolerated.
Not sure^^

[KaSS]

i agree with katana here tbh. i don find it disturbing if ppl wear what they wear(in this case a burka), as long as they don have their faces uncovered:
-when pictures for legal documents are taken
-when entering a bank (as the example katana said)
-in the airports


so basically everything to do with legal/business matters and airports/crossing boarders showing ur face is kinda a must.

id post a badass long post but for that id need a dictionary by my side. my poor poor english so i figured, id make it short and easy

[~ACER*]

i agree with katana here tbh. i don find it disturbing if ppl wear what they wear(in this case a burka), as long as they don have their faces uncovered:
-when pictures for legal documents are taken
-when entering a bank (as the example katana said)
-in the airports


so basically everything to do with legal/business matters and airports/crossing boarders showing ur face is kinda a must.

id post a badass long post but for that id need a dictionary by my side. my poor poor english so i figured, id make it short and easy

But walking in the local supermarket would be fine?
Just checking the opinion of you guys.

Btw they are allowed to show there face in a bank but not in public? (by there religion)
getting confused lol.

[doctorfunk]

another pov
walking nude is forbidden, so I would have no problems with forbidding burka if it generally considered distasteful

[-AGGA-]

burka isnt that against the law because you the police MUST see your face thats written in the law so

[luminoKo]

Theres a HUGE difference Lumi, between wearing a burka and wearing a nazi suit. You surely must see that

The definition of both suits are indeed way different, but if someone can wear a burka, why not a nazi suit?
There are people who don't have any problems with someone being in a nazi suit, the same with burkas.
And also otherwise, people will get mad if they see people with nazi suits and also burkas.

@ Katana,

It is a big thing because if you could wear what you want, the WW III will probably start soon.
If it would be legal to walk with a 'I hate black persons' shirt in a district full of black persons, imagine what will happen lol.