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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:33 PM

that's true button, it seems they didn't miss a beat and Lewis and Allen give them even more firepower
Bosh/Lewis will be deadly smallball linup - both of them can drain a three/midrange add Chalmers/Allen + either LBJ or Wade and well you gonna have hard time giving help on pnr and drives to the basket lol
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 11:22 PM

Since when have the lakers needed a bench to win a championship? They have enough off the bench to win it all. The lineup last year for the heat that allowed them to play their best was Chalmers, Wade, Battier, Lebron and Bosh. That will never work against the Lakers. Rashard Lewis has been garbage for the last 3 years. Battier and Miller can hit the three better than him right now. Only upgrade is Ray allen. They upgraded places where, imo, they didn't need upgrades, unless injuries happened. They just don't matchup well against the Lakers. If lakers don't make it to the finals, heat win. If lakers do, lakers win.
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 01:01 AM

There's no way in hell Wizards make the post season. Wall lacks the true court vision to make the players around him better à la CP3/Nash. Yea sure Wall is a physical beast but his jumper, decision making and passing left a lot to be desired. Rest of the team is garbage so they won't be even close to making the play-offs. Speaking of Nash, I really hope Lakers can win it all this year but with their current bench that's just impossible. If they can get some depth to their bench they might be able to challenge OKC in West. Unfortunately LeBron is too much of a beast and Heat will be celebrating at the end of this season aswell.


See. you are comparing the Wizards with point guards in the west. How do the wiz have anything to do with the western conference for making the playoffs? They beat the heat more than any team last year, didn't they? It has nothing to do with last season, it has to do with this season, the change in atmosphere, the summer training camps, and the off-season acquisitions.

Regardless, I understand your opinion. I'm just a long time fan who has been following his home team for years and as with every sport in Washington, we always are hopeful since we never win anything with what we get. I think Wall lacks a lot, but he is a good offensive point guard and the fact that he now has two big men to play with as well as a decent bench of young athletic guys, they can win games. That's really all I'm concerned with, you really only need to win 40+ to make the playoffs in the east.

And the Heat. It's pretty safe to say LeBron is the best basketball player in the league right now and he just might average a triple-double this season (doubt it but you NEVER fucking know, it's the king). They did statistically get better with Allen trade, IMO, if he stays healthy (same with Bosh).

And btw. Defqon said it best, I'll bold it for you guys:

Rashard Lewis has been garbage for the last 3 years

And really in all honesty if any of you are actually watching pre-season games, Lakers are 0-6 and Sixers are 6-1 without bynum (LOL).

But yeah, pre-season doesnt really matter in the NBA.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 01:35 AM

Rashard Lewis doesn't have to play good, he just has to make open shots- and he will get lots of looks playing with two of top5 NBA players, that's the problem. And if there's some mediocre offensively PF on the floor you can have Rashard playing just to stretch the floor for you.
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:07 AM

Do you know what happened to Rashard when he went up against Pau in the finals? He got killed, and this was when Rashard lewis was "good". Rashard doesn't have to play good? Maybe during the season, but who cares about the season. They are going to make it to the finals guaranteed. Lebron is the best player in basketball. They doesn't mean he is going to win by himself. They won the finals this year because of Battier, Chalmers and Miller. All had atleast one big game. OKC didn't get those games from Harden and were missing maynor. And imo, dwade isnt top5 anymore.

Lakers have dwight howard. Who on the heat can guard him? No one. Drop step, dunk. Heat have a much better perimeter defense, lakers have much better interior defense. That means miami doesn't have to double kobe, unlike most teams. But, they do have to double dwight, unless they want to get raped. We all know what we are going to get out of nash. Lots on offense, nothing on defense. Howards presence of the defensive end is going to be big though. He's alot quicker than any other big man. I see gasol playing alot better in their princeton offense aswell. I don't think their bench is that much of a concern as others. Jamison could easily be a candidate for 6th man of the year. I would like to see a quicker, younger guy off the bench at PG. Goudelock would be nice but I doubt they play him. Ebanks is decent on defense and has been working a little on his shot. Jodie meeks, big time three point threat. And jordan hill is gonna work hard for those boards. Obviously these aren't big name guys but its definetly servicable for a bench and the Lakers in general have never had a good bench. Only lamar odom. But we got jamison and meeks. Lakers have never even been able to hit threes. Meeks is a great three point shooter and so is nash. And we still got kobe.

If the lakers offense clicks, I don't see the heat beating them, as good as lebron is.
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:43 AM

Mmm, it's not like these big men on the Heat have not played basketball their entire careers as much as Dwight has. I don't have a doubt that Haslem, Anthony and Bosh can play interior D, even against Dwight.

Playoffs come down to chemistry. The season actually kinda does matter if you think hard about it defqon since your beloved team is in the West coast conference. The badass conference. I don't doubt they'll be 1-2 seed since they just have too much depth, but I don't think the Lakers have a strong bench, I don't think the lakers have a strong coach, and it really comes down to minutes. Lebron can play 48 minutes a game literally in the finals, Kobe can't, Nash can't, not even Dwight can (we'll see how he does at the line and with fouls, could be a liability since lebron probably knows how to pick up fouls on him with his slashing). D.Wade is pretty much the same as lebron with 48+ possible, especially in the playoffs. And with a weak bench, I dunno. The season will give us a better picture anyway, no point in arguing sides now (with trades and all). It's just a picture anyway, right? ;)

Although I still agree about lewis. Guy's been trash since he went to the Wizards. Can't even play good D or go up for a board before tiring out. If the Heat coaching staff are smart they'll only give him 10 or less minutes a game.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 03:05 AM

So you think spoelstra is a stronger coach than brown? No way lol. Both these faggots got shoulder bumped by lebron. Did any team besides denver and lakers get better? Not really. If the lakers were third last year, but got better, why wouldn't they be 2nd? They were third last year with a new head coach. This is his 2nd year now. Lakers will be 2nd, while San Antonio will drop from 1st to third. Why can't kobe play 48 minutes? Since when did you see Kobe slowing down? 2nd in scoring last year. Dwade and Kobe averaged the same minutes per game last year. 39. I honestly haven't even watched a game where kobe was "tired" at the end of a game. No lockout year, much more time to rest. Kobe will be fresh come playoff time. Haslem, Anthony and Bosh can guard Pau, not dwight lol. That is just as ridiculous as you saying Bynum is shitty.
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 04:45 AM

I see the bias in your post and decide the shrug it off. Yeah you love the team but you have unrealistic expectations of coaching and the sport. +1

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 05:40 AM

And your bias towards wiz and them making the playoffs is even more outrageous. Why would I even need to be bias towards the lakers when guys like Kevin Durant are saying the lakers have the best team on paper lol. Lakers have some of the best minds in the game in steve nash and kobe bryant. They have a true PG, top SG, defensive SF, top 5 PF, best center in the game. Why would I think mike brown as a coach would hold them back? And how can I be bias when I stated the numbers of mpg. I didn't just pull numbers out of my ass. Dwade isnt gonna change his playing style. He is gonna attack the basket. Kobe isn't. So why would kobe not be able to match wades minutes if he hasnt even show any sign of wear and tear and isn't even going to attack the basket fearless like wade does. Wade is 30. When Kobe was 30, he didn't even attack the basket like wade did. He changed his game into a midrange game. Thats why he is still lasting this long and playing at an elite level while being in the nba since he was 18. Its totally simple. I think Lakers will beat miami because of their height at PF and C and they have a true PG while having just enough on the bench. And artest is still good on defense but I bet you think hes garbage.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 06:34 AM

So what. Wade is easily the better player since 2010 or even before that. Wade has at least 2-3 good seasons in him provided he won't get injured more than now. With Miami playing like they do, they don't need him to be the player he once was. If he can drop 15-20 every night it's really enough.

Do you know what happened to Rashard when he went up against Pau in the finals? He got killed, and this was when Rashard lewis was "good".


1. he was already bad then
2. ofc he was killed, like 99% of the league. He is not a good player to guard Pau.(i doubt he often guarded him, don't remember now)

I still think he can be useful in some lineups;
example LBJ + bosh.lewis.allen.chalmers - have fun trying to help on LeBron
He doesn't have to do anything else than to make shots when he's open, he can do that

I admit it will be hard for MIA to stop LAL.Bosh/Anthony/ could maybe guard Pau. But Anthony on the other hand is a liability
on offense. But remember to get there, LAL has to beat OKC. Thunder is much better suited to beat LA than MIA is.
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:07 AM

I never said wade was done. I was trying to get the point across that Kobe isn't done. Wade better than kobe? Since 2010 or even before? That is so garbage lol. They won the title back to back in 2009 and 2010. Wade is more clutch than Kobe? Wade shoots better than Kobe? Wade shoots FT better than Kobe? Does wade's post game even compare to Kobe's? Defense is his only advantage, and that is since 2010.
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:22 AM

Where can i online check all games? (doesn't have to be live)
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:35 AM

True though that lakers gotta go through tougher teams. I could see another tight series against the nuggets if they play eachother. I still like the lakers though. Im not a fan of dwight howard, personally would have loved to keep bynum, but i dont understand how someome can see he doesn't dominate inside defensively and offensively

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:41 AM

Where can i online check all games? (doesn't have to be live)



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Posted 25 October 2012 - 12:47 PM

Mike, i usually just use sites like rojadirecta or smth, when i get more sites i will let you know at the start of the season
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 01:05 PM

If funk can use espn why can't the rest of you europeans just do the same?

Hell, even NBA.com gives you scores and news. Noob europeans.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 03:21 PM

If funk can use espn why can't the rest of you europeans just do the same?

Maybe because Europe isn't a country (shocker!) and TV companies have different broadcasting rights in different countries.

NBA League Pass is a bargain at ~170e really, the quality is absolutely top notch. Gonna get it for this season aswell.
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 03:30 PM

Maybe because Europe isn't a country (shocker!) and TV companies have different broadcasting rights in different countries.

NBA League Pass is a bargain at ~170e really, the quality is absolutely top notch. Gonna get it for this season aswell.


Shocker!! Like I didn't know that!!! Same way you Europeans generally think Canada is part of the USA, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I naturally assumed amongst the EU, which in itself is basically the entity of a country since you all share one currency, that you have similar TV stations or satellite networks. Hell, even in the USA, all you need is a satellite dish and I can get SkySports and Asian channels as well. But I guess you guys have things setup differently. The fact of the matter is, you all have internet don't you? And if in Poland AKA the EU you can access ESPN.com, why can you not just do the same from your god damned computer?

Note the question was based on how he can check box scores, not how he can watch the games. League pass is the best thing you can do to watch games, even in the USA.

"Because Europe is not a country (shocker!)"

Fucking stupid Europeans.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:51 PM

Ye europe is basically a country.... With 23 different languages...
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:25 PM

for me i cant get league pass because i need credit card and i dont have one, else i would use that aswell
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