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[Invictus.]

Yes, none of those players on the NOTAG ss`s would be playing in dad`s. Reason is simple, PINGS!!!!!!

What comes on notag people being nice, clean and friendly - isn`t egg and nuke coming from that "side" of the gaming world? Aren`t those clans like incarnation of cheating and immaturity? Marty and mrbours look like emperor of coolness and king of cleaness on the side of those notaggers.

So there.. this propaganda about notaggers maturity can end once and for all

notag server sure might have nooby players or immature ppl but when it comes to being a community they are 10x better than this one, they do several things WAY better than here. for example if a demo of a "cheater" arises they have a locked admin section for it to go to they dont keep it in public why??? look at the flame that arises here every time any demo is ever posted, also they ahve more than 1-2 mods for almost every section to help reduce the flame in topics etc. also ppl that dont abide by the rules are given warnings that are logged and after so long the person is banned and not for 1 week or 2 weeks they ban ppl that cant follow the rules for months even years. also the server may be "nooby" in your eyes but there are ACTIVE admins theres hardly a time of the day you can go into either the INF or TDM and not see an admin in there. even if you go in and theres not you can go onto the notag forums they have something called LIVE ADMIN you click it ask for an admin and i think a PM or message on msn or something of the sort is sent out to all admins anyone online comes to the server if they can.

[defqon]

so so so soooo true.

I am American and play in notag but I play in dads much more often then notag. Reason = more of a challenge and no m4 noobers xd

[TDK6]

Yes, none of those players on the NOTAG ss`s would be playing in dad`s. Reason is simple, PINGS!!!!!!

What comes on notag people being nice, clean and friendly - isn`t egg and nuke coming from that "side" of the gaming world? Aren`t those clans like incarnation of cheating and immaturity? Marty and mrbours look like emperor of coolness and king of cleaness on the side of those notaggers.

So there.. this propaganda about notaggers maturity can end once and for all

notag server sure might have nooby players or immature ppl but when it comes to being a community they are 10x better than this one, they do several things WAY better than here. for example if a demo of a "cheater" arises they have a locked admin section for it to go to they dont keep it in public why??? look at the flame that arises here every time any demo is ever posted, also they ahve more than 1-2 mods for almost every section to help reduce the flame in topics etc. also ppl that dont abide by the rules are given warnings that are logged and after so long the person is banned and not for 1 week or 2 weeks they ban ppl that cant follow the rules for months even years. also the server may be "nooby" in your eyes but there are ACTIVE admins theres hardly a time of the day you can go into either the INF or TDM and not see an admin in there. even if you go in and theres not you can go onto the notag forums they have something called LIVE ADMIN you click it ask for an admin and i think a PM or message on msn or something of the sort is sent out to all admins anyone online comes to the server if they can.

hok is right. no tag gaming community is probably the best community out of all sof2 communities.

put aside, that demobase has better tourny's and other sorts of stuff
but notag has a better community better people and way much more fun to be with.

Notaggaming would probably be the community that we need to keep sof2 demo alive. without notaggaming their wouldnt be caserun, a decent tdm server, etc. there have been players in notaggaming that played since this game was released and you call then noobs? listen to yourselves taking this game as if this was your intire life. as a matter of a fact i think that overall demobase.eu is a nice community no lie about that but the people that use it ... its pathetic. people in notag donate for servers, help the site keep on active. GOOGLE has its own account, advertises are everywhere and you know why? cause of us, and we make it active and we make it a place to chill in when we are bored.. what does demobase have? FLAME WARS.

[Dena]

This is going offtopic, but perhaps the community differences are related loosely for keeping this game alive

To be honest, my experience about notag is rather small. My ping is too high when playing on their servers and their skill level is too low to make the playing enjoyable.

I don`t know whole a lot of what kind of "community" or what kind of forums notag has these days. I used to visit their forums in past, trying to activate them for using IRC. At that time, the forums seemed pretty dead and dull. Don`t know whats the situation in there atm.

Increasing mods is not efficient way to reduce flame. When Luminaire was a supermod/admin, he was far more efficient than having 7 mods/section. His superactivity made people annoyed. These are forums. Forums are for discussing, arguing and information/opionion sharing. When people share their opinions about things, conflicts can`t be avoided.

What comes to the admin activity on our servers (mostly dads). I think dad has like 15 admins atm. Pretty much always when i have played there, admin was available. At the main gaming times, there have been several ones online at the same time.

Notaggaming would probably be the community that we need to keep sof2 demo alive. without notaggaming their wouldnt be caserun, a decent tdm server, etc. there have been players in notaggaming that played since this game was released and you call then noobs? listen to yourselves taking this game as if this was your intire life. as a matter of a fact i think that overall demobase.eu is a nice community no lie about that but the people that use it ... its pathetic. people in notag donate for servers, help the site keep on active

Well.. notaggaming would be the community NON EUROPEANS need to keep this game alive for THEM. Notaggaming has nothing to do with the EUROPEANS, since the pings are like +150 when playing with their servers. It`s like two different planets. Notag has its own rules, serves and methods and demobasers got their own. Not saying which ones has more enjoyable methods, but i think demobase has taken the gaming a step further than notaggers. This can be seen in the cup and war activity, aswell as in skill level differences.

What comes to the n00b calling of notaggers, none can deny their skill level is far below demobase ones. There must be a reason why 3v (was mostly yanks in the beginning) is/was constantly playing on european servers and against european clans.

Think the main difference between notag and demobase is this. Notag concentrates for having fun and fooling around, while demobase has always been more interested in competing and winning wars. Each individual can choose, which he likes more, but for me its clear what i want from a game. WARS, CUPS and COMPETITIVE COMMUNITY. Without competing, i can`t be arsed to play a game.

Dunno where this caserun mod came from but i saw it first time half year or a year ago on netbosses server. Played it for an hour or two, didn`t like it.

[defqon]

ffs too much to read.

[Haapis]

Why dont you try to unite demobase and ntg. One big community could get sof few years extra.

Arent there servers where both americans and europians get good ping?

[project]

ye uniting the 2 communities would be nice, but as far as i know there isn't a server where both europeans and americans have good pings.. or is there one?

[Dena]

There is a reason why EVERY game is divided into two or three parts, Asia, Europe and USA. It`s pretty impossible with current connections to get proper pings when uniting these three continents.

What comes to notag and demobase community uniting, i don`t think that could ever happen. Neither can play on eachothers servers properly, nor will demo or notag give up for their current forums.

ALTHOUGH... There is a place for both communities to meet without giving up of anything. A "new" place for both sides, where you can hang around and get to know eachother. A place where wars can be organized in 1-5 mins, like its done in most of the games. Sadly people are not really interested about this kind of thing. People want to stay inactive and seperate

[Haapis]

Haapis says (11:39):
Is it possible to get good pings for usa and eu!?
Hues A. says (11:41):
yeah US peps has ping 80 and euro has 10 - 50

www.gameservers24.com!!!

[rippa]

Here's my opinion, lots of you guys won't care, as i am not an 'oldschool' member and lots won't agree with me. But hopefully some will read this and agree.

DemoBase:

Good:

- More about skills
- More Skilled players
- More Euro servers - low ping for players
- More competetive
- More exiciting, CUPS, tournaments, SOTW [ inactive i think ] etc.

Bad:

- Flame all the time
- Only 1-4 major active 'pro' clans.
- 'Corrupt' i guess. example. In Cheaters u always see demos and shit. If its a nub, straight away ther busted. If its a pro, they some how get away with it no matter how obvious the demo is, coz of admin friends, clan friends etc.
- 'Snobby' i guess. Like, You guys think ur so good [ dont get me wrong you guys are probably the best in sof2 demo ], but u are a bit 'snobby'. U call others noobs and act like ur the best. And also USA players dont mind playing in euro servers, they hav like 100 ping i think? BUT euros NEVER EVER play in USA servers [ especially not wars ], reason why? 'MY PING IS SO HIGH, 100! I cant play with 100 ping.' tbh harden the fuck up, if usa players can play in euro servers why cant euro players just stfu for once and play with a bit of ping and stop complaing. FFS im from australia, there are NO aussie rented servers, so most of the time i play in usa sevrers, like nuke and notag, ther i hav 250 ping. i dont ever complain. Who gives a fuck if u have 100 ping, i would be grateful if i had 100 ping in rented server, but i dont, so i guess u guys just need to toughen up a bit, u say ur the best but maybe some usa players are better, but they always play with 100 ping, whie some of u guys have like 10 ping.
- Everyone not equal - ppl more advantaged, espeically in cheaters section.

NoTag:

Good
- Friendly -no flame ever
- Nice admins
- Nice server
- Everyone is accepted
- Good forum

Bad
- M4 in server
- i guess a lower standard of skill


CONCLUSION:

Notag as a community is 10x better than demobase. but demobase is better as a gaming forum. Demobase, stop with the flaming, especially in cheaters bit.

SOLUTION:
In cheaters, if they are suspected, post a poll, people vote, and give it a week or so. at the end if its more yes than no, then put them busted no matter who the fuck he is. even if its xillax, creator of db, who cares.

Thanks for reading my fucken essay. BTW I realise i am australia and dont known well in this community BUT Its just my opinons, u dont like it keep it to urself, or u will just create more flame, wich is wot db is trying to stop [ isnt it ? ].

THANKS!

[Dena]

Yes, that is Netboss. A Guy who lies for his profession and steals customers money.

I don`t know much of computers, nor pings.. but i know that what netboss is saying is total bullshit.

1. USA guys having ping of 80. How does he know their upload/download speed? As far as i know, customers ping counts more than server.

2. Europeans having 10-50 ping. I don`t have ping lower than 50 even if server is in Finland. Got 4/1 connection.

Placing a server in Europe, means that a guy provided with average connection has ping of 100-200.

Placing a server in USA would mean normal european customer having a ping of 100-200.

Placing a server in middle of Asia, would mean both USA and European customers having a ping of 100-200.

Don`t know what the usual speeds in USA are, but atleast in Finland, upload is pretty low in most cases (cause of preventing piratism i guess). This limits the possibilities of servers average Finn can play at.

Conclusion. Everything Netboss is saying to you in msn, is utter bull****.

[unity]

i also have an admin and a respected palyer caught distributing the program to use all ahcks with fp. GOOOD FUCKING JOB ROCKET!!


thats right sK.rocket hes given to pawn and aaron(damn)

i also ahve proof there are about 10-15 but my source will not say
jaron is also aware of this. GO DEMOBASE

I am also aussie and i got broadband and have 450-500 ping in euro servers and still manage to compete with 3v if i had 80 ping ud all be fucked....

Gj rippa Respect man.

[Dena]

Here's my opinion, lots of you guys won't care, as i am not an 'oldschool' member and lots won't agree with me. But hopefully some will read this and agree.

DemoBase:

Good:

- More about skills
- More Skilled players
- More Euro servers - low ping for players
- More competetive
- More exiciting, CUPS, tournaments, SOTW [ inactive i think ] etc.

Bad:

- Flame all the time
- Only 1-4 major active 'pro' clans.
- 'Corrupt'

NoTag:

Good
- Friendly -no flame ever
- Nice admins
- Nice server
- Everyone is accepted
- Good forum

Bad
- M4 in server
- i guess a lower standard of skill


CONCLUSION:

Notag as a community is 10x better than demobase. but demobase is better as a gaming forum. Demobase, stop with the flaming, especially in cheaters bit.

THANKS!

About those bad things, especially flame in cheater section. That is most likely caused because the competitive nature we got. We love to compete and hate the people who take us the pleasure away with their cheats.

Corrupt you say? Never seen corruption or friendpolitics in here (amongst the crew), since netboss got removed.

Notag having NEVER flame? I wont comment this any further. Played on notag server once or twice with my brother. We managed to play only few rounds before i got accused of aimbotting. Here i never do, except by the very new players. My sisters son got similar experiences of notag TDM servers. He gets kicked constantly due to cheating. Guess Notag community is nice for their own members and less hostile towards "outsiders"

Anyways, im off about the discussion between demobase and notag till i get more personal experience. My thoughts can`t be objective atm, since been a member of this community for 5-6 years. I`ll try playing on notags today and give a report of my experience in a new topic.- This topic shouldnt be about notag vs demobase

[Dena]

i also have an admin and a respected palyer caught distributing the program to use all ahcks with fp. GOOOD FUCKING JOB ROCKET!!

I am also aussie and i got broadband and have 450-500 ping in euro servers and still manage to compete with 3v if i had 80 ping ud all be fucked....

450-500 ping = half seconds lag. Able to compete with guys with 40-80 ping? Think this kinda takes all the credibility from the rest of your post

[rippa]

yeh sry about tht dena i meant to say Not as much, but tbh u cant argue the fact tht if someone is disliked in db wen they are suspected they dont have a better chance then someone tht is admin or leader of a high clan soo ppl suck up to them and let them off easy. Just my opinon.

but true its not about notag vs db.

but just saying db is a major community in sof2 especailly euro, so if u made this community better than, im sure sof will be a lot better aswell.

and also u sed to get more ppl to play this, but wen they play they will be noobs and then u guys will just say, sof has turned into a noob game with lots of nub players and no oldschool palyers. and this goes back to my 'snobby' point, where u guys just care about skills, and even if they are nub, but a really nice person, u dont care about them.

sry to say. but thts my opinon.

thanks.