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[Haapis]

Not attacking Israel = not needing to fight vs Israel's superior army and technology

Aint that a bit childish? In which way would a war prevent war. Israel cant kill the whole nation can they?

[Eminem]

kesem17 what do you want them to do? Israeli army is like a thousend times stronger as them, if they want to win a battle they need to come up with something.. Im not trying to apologizing for them or anything like that becouse my opinion is about this war that both of the sides are wrong and acting like kids.. PEACE

You can call me Eminem. it's feels weird when people call me "kesem"
Like i said, i'm a leftist, I hate war and i think that war is a shitty thing.
But - sometimes there gotta be an act. Israel couldn't keep with the restraint policy. the violation of the ceasefire by the Hamas was the last straw. so i dont agree with you that Israel acted like kid.
What i want Hamas to do? i want them not to attack civilians of course.
no matter what, killing innocent people must not be justified.
shooting rockets at civilians population is a terrorist act. it's wrong. it's not the solution.
we went out of Gaza, they shouldv'e build schools and universities in there instead of investing the money on weapons. the problem is that Hamas rules Gaza. as long as Hamas are rules, there wont be peace.
peace.

Btw, i saw alot of comments here wishing Hitler-like person will rise again. that's really makes me sad. people forget that beside killing 6 millions jews, he also killed 20 millions Russians, and he terrorized whole europe.
I just can't believe people here wishing hitler will kill the jews again.
It's beyond racism, it's a twisted mind.

[Samuel]

It's still one of the only good discussion topics we have. I'd rather keep it open if people can act mature.

Theres always 2 sides to a story samuel.

Kesem is the only real person in here who have participated in this war, but there are no people who can say something worthy from the other side, only theories.

[Samuel]

kesem17 what do you want them to do? Israeli army is like a thousend times stronger as them, if they want to win a battle they need to come up with something.. Im not trying to apologizing for them or anything like that becouse my opinion is about this war that both of the sides are wrong and acting like kids.. PEACE

The only fact that they think they can win a battle shows enough. If hamas will try to solve this case with war, it's obvious that they will lose.
And hey, how killing citizens can help winning the battle? Why not shooting in some important military targets?

[TotyaHUN]

http://ifamericansknew.org/

brainwash works fine...

[Eminem]

http://ifamericansknew.org/

brainwash works fine...

I didnt understand if you are supporting the content of this site or not, but one thing sure - this is nonsens.
this site is clearly subjective and he's resources are pro Palestenian.
for example, look at that:

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians

It's funny, because in the last 8 years a hundred houses have been demolished by Palestinian rockets.
Did that site mentioned that while israel aiming at Hamas warriors and bases, the Palestinians have commited a hundreds suiciding-bombs (or however you call that in english) on resturants, hotles and markets, crowded with citizens?
Here's a little thing you've may not noticed: September 29, 2000 - Present.
you know that thousands of Israelis have died in wars and terrorist attacks before septmber 2000?
this site is subjective and full of lies.

[paahtiE]

And how that guy who greated that site know the numbers? there is no "real" website for those numbers.

[Larry]

The poll is a bit silly because it would be plain ignorant to see everything simply black and white.
I hope the war might result in the Palestinian people realizing Hamas didn't do squat to protect or help their people and that the strategy of bombing and terrorizing simply enlarges all problems. Though, looking at the recent elections in Israel, I'm guessing it won't; people simply choose the path of hatred and destruction.
It's maybe a bit harsh to say but Palestines as much Israelians have a big responsability for all the misery they went and are still going through...
I'm just wondering, anyone of the Israelians here who voted for Liebermans party? What does most of the population think of this guy?

[Eminem]

I'm just wondering, anyone of the Israelians here who voted for Liebermans party? What does most of the population think of this guy?

I definetly didn't, the guy is a fucking fascist.
He increased his power at the last elections thanks to the war at Gaza.
many people got furstrated because of that last war, they especially got furstrated from the Israeli-Arabs, which pretty much supported Hamas.
Lieberman slogan is "only Lieberman is understanding Arabic". stupid people bought this stupid slogan.
The main part of the popultaion which voted him are the ignoramus and the uneducated.
the stupid horde.

I went a bit off topic, for your question - the media (in our country the media are radical leftifsts) and the Academic guys (which also are radical leftists) sees him as a clown.
the average educated man (i'm a good example tbh) sees him as a fascist with some dangerous ideas.
the mass, the horde, are praising him.
fortunatly, his dangerous ideas are not applicable.

btw, you can watch this short comic skit (there's a 15 seconds commercial and then its start):
http://www.mako.co.il/tv/erez-nehederet ... 0c10acRCRD

you probabaly wont understand a single word, but you can get the total impression of what the media thinks about him (what you see in this skit is a comic impersonation of Lieberman)
here's a good example of his ideas, from the comic skit above (in bad translation to english from my side ):
"good evening citizens, second rate citizens, third rate citizens, and Arabs"

[zangiiq]

ofc i didnt vote for liberman .

[asrael]

ofc i didnt vote for liberman .

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