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[BariS]

i dont care about how many clips, eSt guys like mdk server a lot cause of that, but if its the rule then need to play default i guess, 6PM ur time is 7PM or 8PM our time? what is ur GMT ? u told 6 fits to you, there were so much numbers and GMT's i didnt it:P

This is what Lion said. As you can see no objection but even an preference. But all he wants is play by the rules, and I don't want to break them. Anyway another + for extra clips!

Now I think of it, I am also an Admin of this cup ! But I would be a bitch changing it like that, so that's why it's a suggestion

[BariS]

baris, I removed extra clips from cst server cos I wanted our server to have right amount of bullets according to cup rules. tbh 120 bullets are more than enough, more than that just means there will be much more spraying. imo you need to know when to shoot and how much, there needs to be some flaws with wreckless spraying.

Nah you used a wrong word. I mean who cares if I or spray or you spray, spraying doesn't mean that you will hit. The right word is supposed to be pre-shooting. And I think we 1sters do deserve some extra clips.

I mean think of this. 3rd wasn't a part of the game, but the community accepted it. Then most of the 3rders could not camp good because of nades, and the community removed it. Now us 1sters demand something little. Something that changes equally. Not only we get the more bullets, but also you.

And also countless 3rders would like to have this change due to AK going empty to fast. Kays was one of em, I hope sooner or later the rest will show up too, to support my suggestion

Edited by BariS, 16 March 2010 - 02:31 PM.

[pummi]

fyi, i'd love to have nades back. i never saw a problem with them but it was mainly your clan against them. i really hope we could have them back for the next cup.

as a 3rder i can say that i need more bullets to kill the opponent compared to good 1sters so this would actually help 1sters more.

[Brighty]

its a skill how to spend ur bullets imo

[pummi]

its a skill how to spend ur bullets imo

exactly my point.

[BariS]

Well yeah, you have a point there. The few 1sters that play usually have a better aim with AK, then most of the 3rders. But the problem lies in the extra view that 3rders have. And therefore they need less preshoot. But 1sters on the other hand, we need to shoot walls sometimes, just to make sure a 3rder does not pop out and kill us.

So please, just be a bit understanding towards 1sters and give us those extra clips :$ (oh yeah.. and yourself of course)

Edited by BariS, 16 March 2010 - 02:37 PM.

[Luigiz]

well atleast I'm not in need for these extra clips. Even though I play 1st sometimes ( pretty often nowadays tbh )

[Brighty]

Well yeah, you have a point there. The few 1sters that play usually have a better aim with AK, then most of the 3rders. But the problem lies in the extra view that 3rders have. And therefore they need less preshoot. But 1sters on the other hand, we need to shoot walls sometimes, just to make sure a 3rder does not pop out and kill us.

So please, just be a bit understanding towards 1sters and give us those extra clips :$ (oh yeah.. and yourself of course)

I understand ur point, but there are other tactics to prevent 3rd to pop out.

[BariS]

I understand ur point, but there are other tactics to prevent 3rd to pop out.

Aw look guys I don't want to start a fight here. But please don't talk as I've started playing 1st just 2 weeks ago.
If my voice enough ain't good ehough. Go check previous post. Even one of the best 1sters of demo (Xillax) agreed that this is important for us.

I know it's a skill how to use your bullets. And like I said the spraying is not the problem. The main problem is preshooting. And next to this there is also the fact that even 3rders use up their ammo in a equal match. With a equal match, with all respect I don't mean wA vs MDK but for example CST vs MDK.
Rounds take longer, people survive longer with less hp. And AK bullets are nowhere to be found. As we go to the quarterfinals & half-finals not only 1sters, but all players will start experiencing this lack of ammo.

Edit:

And this is for the "this is default" argument. THIS IS NOT DEFAULT! Default was changed when nades were removed. This game was made so that 30 + 90 AK bullets + shotgun ammo + PISTOLS + 5 knives + 2 nades were used in 1 round.

Pistols were taken away (no comments on this one, but I did use it when my ak was empty).
Furthermore nades were taken away (nades can do up to 400 dmg!!!! <-- not to be underestimated).

This has to be compensated if you ask me. And that is a fact!

Edited by BariS, 16 March 2010 - 02:56 PM.

[Brighty]

lol we aint fighting (atleast i aint) and u do got a point.

extra clips are always welcome lol

[BariS]

lol we aint fighting (atleast i aint) and u do got a point.

extra clips are always welcome lol

Well yeah I am sorry, I let a little emotion slip there.

[Brighty]

want a hug?

[BariS]

Only if no1 looks . Haha ok stop it, let's stay on topic

[Brighty]

well we could ask doc if he wants to change it, else we could use extra clip for a next cup/tournament

[BariS]

Notice: Suggest/Complain about any server settings that you would like us to change. We're still able to edit the rules as the cup is running.

Well it can still be changed I guess. The fact is, do all 3 admins agree? I support it that is for sure. But I can't go against both Slizer and Doctorfunk, so I'll have to wait for their agreement. And above that, I can't go against the community. Eventhough I think if we would make a poll, the majority would vote for extra clips I think.

[Brighty]

then it would be fair, to change it after the #1 match rounds.

wouldnt it?

[Dawid]

well extra clip in ak is a great idea since i lose it too fast also while im a 3der (yea im unskilled sorry). I can imagine how 1sters feel when their ak is out, same goes if u got 1n4 situation and u lose cause u run out of ak ammo, ain't it awesome. Hope doc will be fine with it

[max]

Agreed up there, I'm a 3rder but I run outta ammo pretty fast, due to blindness. So it would be a valuable call to add some clips!

baris, I removed extra clips from cst server cos I wanted our server to have right amount of bullets according to cup rules. tbh 120 bullets are more than enough, more than that just means there will be much more spraying. imo you need to know when to shoot and how much, there needs to be some flaws with wreckless spraying.

Even though I can understand that 4 clips aren't enough, every server must have the same amount of ammo. Otherwise, it just wouldn't be fair. If the majority agrees that more clips are needed (e.g. 1 or 2 more) I can add this to the default settings of RPM 2k3 server side. I've done the same thing before by changing the round time limit and round start delay to 3, which is now widely accepted.

[XILLAX]

well.... since we're on the topic of changing rules

BRING PISTOLS BACK!
I really don't understand why you guys disabled pistols because "people used to drop them and we would autoswitch"... there is a CLIENT command in the default sof2 options list to turn off auto switch!!! (not even a cvar only one like fps, it's actually in the menu too :x)