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[Richard]

Samuel there's multiply quotes in the bible, as you've read it you'll probably know they talk about the ends and corners of the world. Job 11:9 quote: Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea. Everyone thought it was flat in that time, so its not that suprising at all.

Your right, I stick with science and you will (probably) stick with the bible. What your saying about 'magic':

"And i gotta explain you something, the fact you can't explain something from scientific way, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. 1000 years ago like 90% things we know today would be magic or just "impossible"."

What you just said is correct, 90% of the things we thought was MAGIC is now proven to have a scientific explanation and so is the other 10%. I've also seen people getting 'healed' and died just some time later because they didn't go see a docter. I call your guy lucky, if it would really work they would've healed every person with cancer but it just doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong I don't hate or dislike you because your religious. Its just my point of view

[malydok]

Theres 2 sides to that arguments:
Theres people who say theres no God
Theres people who say theres a God

I think I'm in between. It's not of my interest now to know whether there is God or isn't. I will live my life according to my own beliefs, which don't necessairily have to be bad. God, if he exists, in the Christian teology is said to give humans a free will and that's what I'm doing- using it.

[malydok]

Your bible arugments are pointless anyway Richard for the bible isn't there for an informational purpose but to convey the timeless truths that everyone can relate to.

[P4P3R]

Samuel there's multiply quotes in the bible, as you've read it you'll probably know they talk about the ends and corners of the world. Job 11:9 quote: Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea. Everyone thought it was flat in that time, so its not that suprising at all.

Your right, I stick with science and you will (probably) stick with the bible. What your saying about 'magic':

"And i gotta explain you something, the fact you can't explain something from scientific way, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. 1000 years ago like 90% things we know today would be magic or just "impossible"."

What you just said is correct, 90% of the things we thought was MAGIC is now proven to have a scientific explanation and so is the other 10%. I've also seen people getting 'healed' and died just some time later because they didn't go see a docter. I call your guy lucky, if it would really work they would've healed every person with cancer but it just doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong I don't hate or dislike you because your religious. Its just my point of view

But it doesn't explain it did either. I guess it's all just an individual thing, whether you are the type of person who needs confirmation, proof for things such as these or whether you just believe or do not believe.

Of course there's stuff still unexplainable but I don't like people who immediately call it "a miracle granted by God" or something.

I hate most extreme-religious people, I don't hate people who are religious in a normal way though, everyone believes in what (s)he wants to believe in.. but don't go around town putting it on a billboard shouting your shit to everyone.

In the end it all comes down to you, the way you are. I am not religious and won't ever be, because I'd rather have proof / an explanation for stuff than assuming it's something created by a religion, by a God, by faith in those.

[Samuel]

Samuel there's multiply quotes in the bible, as you've read it you'll probably know they talk about the ends and corners of the world. Job 11:9 quote: Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea. Everyone thought it was flat in that time, so its not that suprising at all.

Your right, I stick with science and you will (probably) stick with the bible. What your saying about 'magic':

"And i gotta explain you something, the fact you can't explain something from scientific way, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. 1000 years ago like 90% things we know today would be magic or just "impossible"."

What you just said is correct, 90% of the things we thought was MAGIC is now proven to have a scientific explanation and so is the other 10%. I've also seen people getting 'healed' and died just some time later because they didn't go see a doctor. I call your guy lucky, if it would really work they would've healed every person with cancer but it just doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong I don't hate or dislike you because your religious. Its just my point of view

Well that is just stupid and called fanatic.

And no it wouldn't. Just read at least new testament, I mean all of it. It's no big deal isn't it.

It depends what you define as "religious".

Edited by Samuel, 30 June 2010 - 04:43 PM.

[bing bang blaow]

Well that is just stupid and called fanatic.

And no it wouldn't. Just read at least new testament, I mean all of it. It's no big deal isn't it.

It depends what you define as "religious".

How is that stupid?

First of all, if he/she/it can heal one person, there is no reason whatsoever he shouldn't be able to do the same with any other cancer patient. and if he truly is religious, well religion is like 100% being good to other people, hell yeah how is that good against 100s others cancer patients when u only cure one..to tease the others or what? how is it that the "magical" healings happen only once and even then its "blamed" on religion :?

[Samuel]

i called this stupid: "I've also seen people getting 'healed' and died just some time later because they didn't go see a doctor." stupid of that people i mean

[ReneGaDe]

Fuck ya crucifix, your religion and its uselessness
Your propaganda is more wickeder than luciphers
Islamic scientists predicted the computer chips
I spit a rap at you to rock you like Medusa's lips
You fucking goons are sick, and y'all can see that
and y'all are my sons like Ebrahim and Eshak
So lets take a walk through the tivest town
I'm the diven science of the light and the sound
I'm the sublime giant with the right to the crown
I'm the divine tyrant and I'm striking you down
So I teach my kin to attack the beast
For trying to hide me from the 4th book of Makavis
You wack MC's catch a hook to the head
Cause y'all don't know about the tibetan book of the dead
You don't know about anything that's important
About the dead sea scrolls found in Jordan
About the way that you conduct yourself in Satan's wratch
But I don't fuck with you, you walking down the pagan's path

Verse from Jedi Mind Tricks - The Philosophy Of Horror -

Edited by ReneGaDe, 30 June 2010 - 05:11 PM.

[maniman]

Those who never had spiritual expierences i pity them tbfh.. How small you're world is i dont even want to imagine. Maybe thats the reason for religion.. Even Einstein claimed that mystic is the highest form of emotions humans can have and that he for that reason was deeply spiritual. But its true.. those who cant comprehend these emotions are the cancer of this earth.

ehh, just a random post k..

[asrael]

Theres a huge difference between religion and spirituality, and please, being religious doesn't mean that you can imagine alot at all. Most of 'em are sheep that can't imagine a thing.

[PreZ]

Wow this topic is still alive?

[P4P3R]

we keep teh Prez in teh demobase

[Juul]

why are these arguments about religion allways the same in every topic. some people have other thoughts than others... who are you guys trying to confince?

[maniman]

Theres a huge difference between religion and spirituality, and please, being religious doesn't mean that you can imagine alot at all. Most of 'em are sheep that can't imagine a thing.

Religion opens the doors to such expierences, it breaks you out of your mental prison for you to embrace alot more in the world wich results into spiritual expierences, like Einstein would say it.
Atheists (especially since birth), please, 99% of them are way to egocentric to, ehh, to even really know the feelings they personally have and expierence them, let alone expierence spiritual emotion. Their minds are way to closed.

They are, dead. Thats a way to say it.

Edited by mani-tzu, 30 June 2010 - 05:35 PM.

[t0xic]

hey, to be honest religion is pure bullshit (directed towards everyone)

agree or disagree

[P4P3R]

< Atheist and if I say so myself, my mind is all but closed.

What you're saying is kind of naïve, might as well try to convince us all cars are the same.

[maniman]

< Atheist and if I say so myself, my mind is all but closed.

What you're saying is kind of naïve, might as well try to convince us all cars are the same.

Cars are all the same, obvious. They all have the same function.

[Masi]

Fuck ya crucifix, your religion and its uselessness
Your propaganda is more wickeder than luciphers
Islamic scientists predicted the computer chips
I spit a rap at you to rock you like Medusa's lips
You fucking goons are sick, and y'all can see that
and y'all are my sons like Ebrahim and Eshak
So lets take a walk through the tivest town
I'm the diven science of the light and the sound
I'm the sublime giant with the right to the crown
I'm the divine tyrant and I'm striking you down
So I teach my kin to attack the beast
For trying to hide me from the 4th book of Makavis
You wack MC's catch a hook to the head
Cause y'all don't know about the tibetan book of the dead
You don't know about anything that's important
About the dead sea scrolls found in Jordan
About the way that you conduct yourself in Satan's wratch
But I don't fuck with you, you walking down the pagan's path

Verse from Jedi Mind Tricks - The Philosophy Of Horror -

what the fuck

[P4P3R]

Cars are all the same, obvious. They all have the same function.

Trololoh.. they are all used for the same purpose but they definitely do not have the same functions..
But k, if you find a car running on gas, diesel the same.. so be it.

Anyway, you know damn well what I'm trying to say.. what you're saying is nothing but a prejudice

[maniman]

Trololoh.. they are all used for the same purpose but they definitely do not have the same functions..
But k, if you find a car running on gas, diesel the same.. so be it.

Anyway, you know damn well what I'm trying to say.. what you're saying is nothing but a prejudice

I just quoted Einstein only using different words. If you didnt knew yet, he was greatly spiritual and he didnt deny 'God'

No, cars are all the same. See you just proved my post even more true. You cant look further then you're own perspective of reality thinking they have different functions because one has a airbag and the other runs on a different fossil. They are still created for the same function and are manmade. How can you not understand?

Its like saying all humans are different wich is impossible since we are all part of the universe and have the same Father(i dont mean God with that). And in the bigger picture we dont even have different functions then just living.

Edited by mani-tzu, 30 June 2010 - 06:06 PM.