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[R3NZ0]

read my edit.. btw i get ur point but like i said two times, both of the sides are retarted!

[uMii]

well..turkey is top 10 , and israel in top 5 [4th] , and strongests are Russia after comes USA.

i see here alot of ppl without any knowledge that post things and they think they realy know something.
[aint talking about azzy/xillax/ and more.]

4th? where do you see that?
what do you know? cauze you you life there, you know everything better?

[NavySeal]

sorry to say this but if you really believe media telling us wrong facts or not tell us things at all ur retarted.. becouse that means theres some kind of conspiracy plot lmao!

You really dont know how the media controls ur mind. It's funny.
The way u act, the way u think, The things u know. It's all controlled by the media.
And yes media is always searching for hot news. Why do you think the gaza thingy is coming in the news every day now. The war is already going for 60 years every day.

[doctorfunk]

Same for why they hardly show pictures of Israelis dying, because nowadays, Israelis dying IS NOT NEWS, since it's been happening everyday for many many years.
[...]
Israel is attacked EVERYDAY by Palestinian terrorists.
[...]

Nobody says it's not true. But it does not mean what they do is right. Say that Israel is right suming up last 60years. But if it was you and your family being blown up in Gaza, then what would you still think they have every right to do what they do?

Stop referring to Israel as "Jews", I've said it 2-3 times in this topic already, Israel is a multi-cultural society which allows Jews, Muslims, Christians, Black People, White People, etc etc.

Israel is mainly jews, like Poland is mainly polish people though we also allow some other cultures (not all of them ofc!). So w/e

[Butcher]

I blame them all.

[XILLAX]

Same for why they hardly show pictures of Israelis dying, because nowadays, Israelis dying IS NOT NEWS, since it's been happening everyday for many many years.
[...]
Israel is attacked EVERYDAY by Palestinian terrorists.
[...]

Nobody says it's not true. But it does not mean what they do is right. Say that Israel is right suming up last 60years. But if it was you and your family being blown up in Gaza, then what would you still think they have every right to do what they do?

That's why my opinion is even valid, since it's objective (-I'M NOT THERE, I'VE NOT BEEN A VICTIM, I'M OF NO RELIGION-) therefore what I say has factual backing[or well it's factual because I do research before I post], not just "they injured me so they are the ones doing the wrong!"


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News just in!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 831870.stm
Key Hamas leader killed
"As interior minister, Mr Siyam controlled thousands of Hamas security troops in Gaza and was said to be widely feared. "

I mean wtf, he's a minister in their government and they... FEAR him!!
In any country with a proper functioning government which cares for its people, no one FEARS their ministers... I don't fear any UK cabinet ministers...

Proves another reason why Hamas are bad as a political party, and since day 1 of their election they have made things a lot worse.

Fatah should be re-elected if you ask me (A)

[stLw+]

israel will get poont . im only telling this =) [ hint ; turkey's army > israel's army ] .

peace.

[maniman]

According to the CIA and other Intelligence Services (European, Asian, African) this is the tally - based on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential (Current or Likely):
1. USA
2. China
3. Germany
4. India
5. France
6. Russia
7. UK
8. Italy
9. Israel
10. Pakistan

Turkey is number 24 i thought. Lots of manpower, but the rest isnt that WOW!

[stLw+]

manpower is enough. 1 hope for israel that they dont gonna attack to much more else III World war will begin . libanon syrie iran will attack israel soon..

[XILLAX]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

[maniman]

manpower is enough. 1 hope for israel that they dont gonna attack to much more else III World war will begin . libanon syrie iran will attack israel soon..

That war will end soon then. USA supports israel, EU supports USA. EU is the strongest atm because Russia dont have friendly connections with Asia. UK supports western country's anyway. Russia, China and Japan will lay back and only comes in action when there's money to get.

So, thats all muslim country's against the rest. Plus if im not mistaken Turkey = EU? They will get kicked out of the EU if they attack EU country's. So i dont think so stLw

[katana.]

lmfao @ all you kids posting ''facts'' about the whole situation
you only know what they want you to know. end of that story.

and about the db israelis saying things like ''well they started!''
give me a break, you're solution to that is go to war?
lol, yeah now you guys are the bigger man, go to war, airplanes vs rocks.

[Stefan]

We should get rid of religions. They bring no good.

[doctorfunk]

That's why my opinion is even valid, since it's objective (-I'M NOT THERE, I'VE NOT BEEN A VICTIM, I'M OF NO RELIGION-) therefore what I say has factual backing[or well it's factual because I do research before I post], not just "they injured me so they are the ones doing the wrong!")

Well, so am I. But the point I'm making is that killing civilians is bad . And during fullscale military operations, ALWAYS a lot of civilians are getting killed. So you can say what you want, and you can even say these are justified actions. But if it was your family who got killed in some of the most awful way you can imagine(place for your imagination here), you would say something different. So neutral person like you should have no reason to back up military operations in urbanized areas, right?

We should get rid of religions. They bring no good.

It's never about religion. It's always about money and the power, biaaaatch.

israel will get poont . im only telling this =) [ hint ; turkey's army > israel's army ].

I don't understand why Turkey would care about Israel? Can someone explain this to me ?

[stLw+]

its not about turkey, something else lol,

[uMii]

According to the CIA and other Intelligence Services (European, Asian, African) this is the tally - based on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential (Current or Likely):
1. USA
2. China
3. Germany
4. India
5. France
6. Russia
7. UK
8. Italy
9. Israel
10. Pakistan

Turkey is number 24 i thought. Lots of manpower, but the rest isnt that WOW!

LOOOL I FOUND THIS 2 but look the date

[XILLAX]

Katana, if you got attacked everyday eventually you won't want to be the bigger man anymore, you will want to hurt hit attack back, also believe me, I know a lot more about this situation than you ever will, and I'm also not the guy who instantly believes what he see's on the news.

That's why my opinion is even valid, since it's objective (-I'M NOT THERE, I'VE NOT BEEN A VICTIM, I'M OF NO RELIGION-) therefore what I say has factual backing[or well it's factual because I do research before I post], not just "they injured me so they are the ones doing the wrong!")

Well, so am I. But the point I'm making is that killing civilians is bad . And during fullscale military operations, ALWAYS a lot of civilians are getting killed. So you can say what you want, and you can even say these are justified actions. But if it was your family who got killed in some of the most awful way you can imagine(place for your imagination here), you would say something different. So neutral person like you should have no reason to back up military operations in urbanized areas, right?

I'm simply posting the history of why this has started, not supporting war, infact:
imo any war/killing people is wrong, even if it's only soldiers who get killed.
(except murderers, rapists, paedophiles)

stlw, Israel isn't attacking Palestine because they are Muslim, else they would attack other neighbours too, or they would have just committed genocide on gaza and west bank the other million times they have had control over them.

[pixel2touch.de]

Thanks for the statistic Mani, but turkey isnt in the EU and i hope they wont join.
Cuz they dont fit to the EU-System too many diffrences...

About the Media and News:
It depends on ur location. The Russian Media for example gets way more controlled by the government as in Europe or in America, thats a fact. Renzo u are right the dutch news wouldnt tell you something wrong but they are just focusing on other aspects where they think they may get more viewers or attention at all. So if you want to get an objective view, you need to research in the internet.(Wikipedia)

[pixel2touch.de]

We should get rid of religions. They bring no good.

It's never about religion. It's always about money and the power, biaaaatch.

ofc, they started to fight cuz of religious reasons!
Nowadays its about money power and you forget the land, which also is quite important.

[maniman]

Yo gxK, i'm sorry i ment that Turkey WANTS TO JOIN the EU badly

And if Turkey behaves itself it'll prolly join the EU in 2015-2016 or smthg!