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#61 Haapis

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:15 PM

Yeah I was busted on gold but like Xillax said I was banned also one season so guess you're wrong. Furthermore why do you have always critic if you don't try anything yourself? That's selfish in my eyes.

I appreciate the posts of the serious guys, we didn't apply this yet, it was only a proposion, but if the most agree I guess we can apply it. About the stars it's not counting untill you have 100 rofl, it's just the category, if the ban is over you have 0 stars again.



Isnt it funny how people cant read properly when their own name is included in an example.

My point was to bring up a situation which your rules cant judge. What do you do for a cheater in other game? Should those who have undoubtly got banned suffer their punishment even in this game? Should the ban be lifetime long? Should we bring the GV banlist from all game to our servers?

Coming to you theres again a question are you enough trustable. Or even is this system necessary? As long as i remember there havent been many busts in this game. Only the Swedish and Belgium from the past nation cup? Are the rules even 'right', cheating should definetely be punished but how about the little things?

Should Angel be granted few stars because he is in the suspected cheater section every other day and the most of Demobase thinks he is cheating (Read it the way that most wouldn't play him because he is a cheater)

And Angel i dont really put emotions in the walls of texts i do. Neither do i think that everyone cheats. I usually ignore the cheating part in here, you are the almost only exception. And how come im even against this euhm "cheating rule"? Don't jump into conclusions or at least keep them for yourself.

PS. You should learn to take critic Lumi. And how come is it selfish to disagree with you? Quite a conclusion. Keep up the work, you own.

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:25 PM

Should Angel be granted few stars because he is in the suspected cheater section every other day and the most of Demobase thinks he is cheating (Read it the way that most wouldn't play him because he is a cheater)


Many players forget that Angel didn't record, so that's why he is currently on the unsent-demo list and will get some stars if the system will be applied yes, not because he is many times in cheater section.

PS. You should learn to take critic Lumi. And how come is it selfish to disagree with you? Quite a conclusion. Keep up the work, you own.


Maybe I understood wrong your point, sorry for that. But I saw it as criticing me based on how you think of me, not on the ideas. It's like always bringing my character above and not concentrating on the idea. I know this idea must be still editted, but it's a proposion. And you're right about the busts (there are not few), but many players lately 'forget' to record, for many it's frustrating. So I think a new system would help, I don't know if it would help, but we can try it right? If it is not a success we can think of something different..
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:33 PM

yo check ur great unsend demo list lumi. why do i stand there, becouse of friendlypolitics of course.

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:36 PM

lol the list is updated in cheater section, not in demo section (can't edit it there).
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:36 PM

Yes, whiners STFU. NO MORE CRASHING, NO MORE NOT SENDING DEMOS, NO MORE FAKING, NO MORE HACKIN, NO MORE BELGS ( NOT ALL ) AND TURKS!

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:39 PM

lol the list is updated in cheater section, not in demo section (can't edit it there).


and who wrote this list`? and putted me there in?
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:41 PM

and by the way its very easy to bust ppls by crashing servers via console. logs ftw, but if i would crash a server and u come with these logs i would say than its faked. So the point is u can also delete that rule.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:41 PM

I wrote both lists, but you are not in the updated list, only in old list, that was long time ago.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:42 PM

I wrote both lists, but you are not in the updated list, only in old list, that was long time ago.


and why do I stay on the old list? becouse of sending all my records?

commone say that word "friendpolitics"
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:43 PM

and by the way its very easy to bust ppls by crashing servers via console. logs ftw, but if i would crash a server and u come with these logs i would say than its faked. So the point is u can also delete that rule.


lol I don't understand, IP is a clear proof, so even if you deny it you did crash it. I agree with you with the logs, you can check it easy so should be punished someway..
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:44 PM

I wrote both lists, but you are not in the updated list, only in old list, that was long time ago.


and why do u stay on the old list? becouse of sending all my records?

commone say that word "friendpolitics"


Ehm.. I must delete that list but I can't.. I'm not moderator there
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:46 PM

I wrote both lists, but you are not in the updated list, only in old list, that was long time ago.


and why do u stay on the old list? becouse of sending all my records?

commone say that word "friendpolitics"


Ehm.. I must delete that list but I can't.. I'm not moderator there


i wanna only know why i stay on the old list. if i have sended all my records.

friendpolitics?

-> off topic ftw

edit: xillax putted me also on the blacklist once.
his reason was "some ppls PM'ed me that i should put u on the blacklist.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:48 PM

I wanna only know why i stay on the old list. if i have sended all my records.

friendpolitics?

-> off topic ftw


Look lol, at that time you didn't send a record once, maybe later you did, but I was not moderator at that time anymore, so I couldn't edit it. So it's an old list which must be deleted, we are working on a new one.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:51 PM

I wanna only know why i stay on the old list. if i have sended all my records.

friendpolitics?

-> off topic ftw


Look lol, at that time you didn't send a record once, maybe later you did, but I was not moderator at that time anymore, so I couldn't edit it. So it's an old list which must be deleted, we are working on a new one.


i send always my records at the same day, 1/2 days later, so its a bit weird to put me so fast on the list ok what ever.

more funny was this situations

xillax putted me also on the blacklist once.
firstly he said i dont need any reasons to put u on the blacklist.

Later was his reason that "some ppls PM'ed xillax that he should put me on the blacklist. (without prove)
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:58 PM

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:00 PM

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 04:11 PM

stop the whining all and let lumi do his thing


only I still think if you cheated once in a dbc or a other cup you have to be banned for life
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 04:44 PM

the idea is good. i wanted to do a similar system back in my day, but the old DB got hacked and so yea. i didn't read any replies, so sorry if i'm saying what already has been said.

the system is good, but i wanna know how will you put the lists together, like the current graylist and blacklist, or how are you going to give out the stars, based on cheater section busts, or what. and if you do when will the suspension start and how far back will you look for busts/unsent demos etc. this was the main question i had when i thought about it. because there has been so much violations it will take you ages to form it and if you do, everyone will whine that its not legitimate.

the only thing that i came up with was that you start with a clean sheet, giving everyone an chance again, which will be unfair for the clean players, but who cares right:P

but yea, if you get it working it will be good, or it can just mix everything up and be the opposite of good. either way good luck.

ps. you need good admins if you wanna pull it through, and imo there arent any around who are competent enough. but hope you find some fresh blood or you can just take it all on your own. hope it works. gl.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 04:54 PM

Won't really be unfair for the clean players because they won't lose anything. If the "cheaters" and people who didn't record haven't stopped their old habits, they'll be on the list soon enough i guess.
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Posted 27 March 2008 - 05:04 PM

true, but i know there are some meanbitchass people in db, who are eeevviiiil and dont give a shit and want the hackers to suffer, even if they are clean now.
It's better to stay silent and look a fool, rather than speak and remove all doubt.


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