88 replies to this topic

[Anus Cocainus]

what are you doing about it anus? your only solution is to send them back or put all of them in jail.
that won't solve the problem, because u've gotta look at the source of the criminal behaviour.

like e.g: what happend or caused their behaviour, and maybe even solve the cause of all the bad behaviour.

Statistics also show, that the surroundings of the people, shape the criminal behaviour what we can notice in the current 'bad immagrants'

with the surroundings i mean: badly shaped homes,building, poor help, prejudgement before testing the person etc etc.

With badtalking them, u make the things only worse, trust me .

What am i doing about it? What the hell can i do, im just a normal civilian.
I can't take justice in my own hands, although i could make some beautiful headshots.
The only thing i can do is vote for someone who thinks the same as me.
The thing is, we cannot change their bad behaviour.
Badly shaped homes, poor help? THIS IS THE NETHERLANDS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!
The government gives an immigrant a home before anyone else, u know how many students can't find a home cuz immigrants are helped first?
If they can't find a job they receive welfare, which is enough for allot of immigrants(1st generation mostly, not all of the new youngsters) so they don't even bother finding work.
Because they don't need to work, there really isn't any need to learn the native language, and this way they get further and further away from normal society.
Even though the government will PAY for their study to learn our language and culture.
Their children hang out on the streets until the late hours (starting from 6 years old), and the parents have little to no knowledge of what they are up to.
Maybe if u live in Poland or something u can use your arguments Alper, but not in Holland.
U can do almost anything u like here, even without any money, even a street-bum gets 500 euro's a month. (to buy bottles of bread )
So don't give me that crap, the fact that immigrants do so poor here is cuz they don't take the chances that are offered to them.
And about the homes they live in, u can't expect the government to put a immigrant in a 400.000 euro home.
The problem is that the government let them cluster in some hoods, and we all know how that ends up.

Edited by Anus Cocainus, 03 April 2009 - 03:07 PM.

[maniman]

You are reacting way to hard lol, you describe it like hell, the ghetto netherlands, the immigrants making holland such a hell to live in. Tell me, what do you want to achieve with this psycho e-whine?

Your way;
Lets deport those immigrants who do not satisfy you. Kick them out. Dont we create hatred? Make the world an even worser place to live in? Create more Terrorists? Create wars? Create hatred between people who are all the same?
I can just imagine people with state of minds like you with power. What a laugh. The world will live 10 years max.
Ofcourse there alot of immigrants having trouble with adjusting the right way in here. They just dont want to forget who they are by deleting there believes and traditions out of there system.

Btw, you should socialize with immigrants. Because people like you most of the time are isolated and think in statistics someone ellse created.

This is my last try Then i'll rest my case like alpkez0r

[bluestar]

lol, ,, muslims muslims muslims ,, damn check the Jews or The christen They are also not so good.. if there is a nnot good muslim.. then there are also not good Jews or Christen .. cmon men ..


Fuck Racisme

[Anus Cocainus]

You are reacting way to hard lol, you describe it like hell, the ghetto netherlands, the immigrants making holland such a hell to live in. Tell me, what do you want to achieve with this psycho e-whine?

Your way;
Lets deport those immigrants who do not satisfy you. Kick them out. Dont we create hatred? Make the world an even worser place to live in? Create more Terrorists? Create wars? Create hatred between people who are all the same?
I can just imagine people with state of minds like you with power. What a laugh. The world will live 10 years max.
Ofcourse there alot of immigrants having trouble with adjusting the right way in here. They just dont want to forget who they are by deleting there believes and traditions out of there system.

Btw, you should socialize with immigrants. Because people like you most of the time are isolated and think in statistics someone ellse created.

This is my last try Then i'll rest my case like alpkez0r

I never said Holland was a ghetto or a hell, but the immigrants (i dont even know why i am saying immigrants, it a are the people from Turkey and Marocco who cause the problems) do make allot of trouble, this is a fact u simply can't deny.
So i can't kick people out of my country, becaus they *might* be angry at me, or become terrorists??? U Actually think people become terrorists cuz they are kicked out of other country's they mis-behaved in?
This is NOT a reason not to do it, this is ANOTHER reason to kick them out as quickly as possible.
People who cost us (AND ME THE TAX_PAYER) so much money, and still cannot behave, should lose their right to live in our country.
Why do we never have these problems with chinese immigrants etc, even the polaks work hard and do their job.

Im not asking for anyone to throw their believes overboard, anyone who works hard, doesn't get in trouble with the law in a disproportional matter is welcome here.

And don't give me that bs like hang out with more immigrants etc, u don't know anything about my personal life.
I can behave fine with turks and marocan's, aslong they are open to discussion, like u are obviously not.
U just can't talk in an objective matter. Open your eyes, why u think Wilders is getting so much votes? Half of the Netherlands is retarded? cmon.

Edited by Anus Cocainus, 03 April 2009 - 04:34 PM.

[maniman]

WHAT kind of problems? I know exactly the same amount of dutchman(tokkies&kampers) who are causing (MUCH BIGGER) criminal problems and costing the goverment money then i know immigrants.
- The next generation is just "made" retarded by the goverment (maybe uncunciouns, i dont know) ; The great dumbing down of Society, youtube it. Causing Macho-behavior and absolutly no fucking idea of reality.

And yes, i do believe it causes alot bigger problems by kicking people out who already live here for a generation or over 10years. For a "JUST A" tiny explanation. Maybe a Muslim who's living here for 10 years and he can support family in marroco, he can live very basic from it. Then he gets kicked the fuck out because his son is retarded. What the fuck is he going to think? He will have fucking hatred in the deepest in his heart. And you cant just kick the son out because that tears familys apart, just A explanation of 1000 other reasons for hatred.

Dont be so bothered about the Tax. Even if you think its a waiste, wich i believe is not. All this money gets pumped back in the economy. I actually read somewhere its good for the financial crisis

I do agree alot of parents (from any culture) cant raise there kids well, protect them from the psychologic war > media, commercials, behavior of other kids etc. But look it on the bright side, atleast alot of immigrants have a good education also. Its not all negative.

But i just think by making NSB rules and kicking out immigrants aitn going to solve shit, only make things worse.

Btw, why do i have a warning bar? RoflMissLesPOPOPOPEWwtf

[Anus Cocainus]

U just keep talking like: hey i know the same amount of people who do this and that blablabla.
Stop pointing fingers to other people, the people u talk about cause like 1% percent of the problems.
And the fact that u don't know the people im talking about, doesn't mean they don't exist.
Maybe u live in an upperclass neighberhood, and u dont see these problems. (even though they are on the news on a daily basis)
And for your clarification with problems i mean: Violence, grouping together on the streets, destruction of property, robbery's, theft, loverboys, people feeling they can't walk the streets safe no more, my grandma being called a whore by a 14 year old bitch, bus-drivers being molested, ambulance-workers getting attacked, etc. etc.
And yes ofcourse they are not the only people who commit these crimes, but the majority of our prisons is filled with immigrants.
And especially with Turks and Marocans, a disproportional amount goes on the criminal path.
The last 10 years we tried dealing with them with stimulation and discussion, the problems just got worse and worse.
They have absolutely no respect for any authority whatsoever.
So now my patience has been tested for long enough, and it is time for more drastic measures.
I never said his whole family should be kicked out, i have no problems to only give the trouble-maker a oneway-ticket.

So u think it is good for our economy if they flush our money to their homeland? Any money made in holland and not spend in holland is a waste, and not helping against the crisis. Money must be spend in our country, or atleast in a European country, not in Africa.

Don't call my views NSB-rules, cause u might want to google what the nsb was all about.
The fact that u state this says alot about ur age and intelligence.

[maniman]

The only one pointing fingers is you. I live in a neighboorhood where the problems are at its max. I had lots of fights with immigrants. Also family members of mine got molested. I also think alot of these people are retarded. But, nah. You just seem like another kid full hatred because of it. Those feelings make you do the dumbest things when having power. So thank god you are a 0,001 to this society.

Kicking people out who already are accepted will only make the problems bigger, period.

The rest of ur post filled with retarded newbness aint going to respond to it as you only going to flame (you cant discuss for shit, weak freak), they should kick you out kthxbb, not going to respond anymore.

[Anus Cocainus]

So thank god you are a 0,001 to this society.

Did u watch the news lately? Did u see how many votes Wilders is going to get?
Hundreds of thousands of people are voting for this man, who thinks like me.
So society is on my side actually.
It just seems u live in a bubble son, have a nice weekend. (if u dont get beat up by Hassan )

Just one more thing, u shouldnt give up on the discussion so easily.
So u don't agree with me thats cool, but i don't see u giving any good idea's where i can think about.
If u have a better solution then me, please feel free to share it with us.

@nicla,

type out your thoughts, dont post links to other people's idea's on youtube.

Edited by Anus Cocainus, 03 April 2009 - 06:03 PM.

[Anus Cocainus]

only debate u fucks wanna do is about the muslims, yall suck.

This topic IS about muslims Alper.
If u want to debate about Christians, feel free to make a topic.

[Zippa]

I think Anus is giving good examples and explaining them carefully, whereas he's getting replied back with such comments as "fuck suck cock newb racist etc...".
Come on, if you want to response, do it properly. If you have anything to say, then try to figure out something better than insulting the poster.

Muslims are an interesting thing to discuss about, because they seem to be invading everywhere nowadays. So, it would be nice to know about fellas like them forehand.

If I were a Netherlander, I'd vote for Wilders also His arguments are throughfully researched and explained, thus causing alot of trouble for people without resolution.

I'd also give one-way ticket to immigrants, if they were to break law of constitution.
You live in the land with the land's rules.

[katana.]

anus if you want to be taking seriously stop making racist jokes.
and about wilders, lol, hes the biggest joke in the ''2e kamer''
youtube the debates, thats your ''leader'' anus

as for ur point, just cause theyre not from the netherlands u hate them more, thats racist buddy..
u can twist ur words all u want, cause god forbid you'd make a topic about dutch people.

[Anus Cocainus]

your theorie is to hell since im an immagrant and i dont cause any problem, like the 95 procent of the immagrants i know

So lets see, how many immigrants would u know... Lets say u know 300 immigrants, and 95% doesn't cause problems.
So thats 285 + urself as u stated above, thats 286 immigrants.
For your convenience i will only count Turks and Moroccans as 'immigrants', around 700000. (a bit higher)
U think my theory is to hell because u can speak for 0,4% of the immigrants.
Alper go to bed.

anus if you want to be taking seriously stop making racist jokes.

as for ur point, just cause theyre not from the netherlands u hate them more, thats racist buddy..

u can twist ur words all u want, cause god forbid you'd make a topic about dutch people.

What 'racist jokes' are u talking about?
Did u even read my posts?
Why would i start a topic on dutch people, if they don't cause the majority of problems?

Edited by Anus Cocainus, 03 April 2009 - 11:38 PM.

[maniman]

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