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[maniman]

Change the topic to "Radical Islam" then. You just black talking 90% of all Muslims. To who ever started this topic

[Anus Cocainus]

Change the topic to "Radical Islam" then. You just black talking 90% of all Muslims. To who ever started this topic

I'm only talking about Turks and Moroccans in the Netherlands. I can't help it most of them are muslims.

[Ravea]

what massage you tried to pass by posting this videos? CORRECT THEME
that there's bad people in the world?
"black persons attack white man cause he white"...
are you kidding me? NO, IT'S a slovenian
description
have you ever heard about the KKK? NO, I'M a DUMB

[maniman]

Then give them decent neighboorhoods to settle in. Dont put them all together because if they immigrate they have almsot no fucking idea how to behave and addapt in this society and them kids will grow up in hoods. If you put all polacks in the same neighboorhood you'll get much worse believe me. If you cant give them decent immigration wanted by the netherlands themselves for economic increase dont bitch about it.

If you have 1 street with 10 dutch family's and 1 immigrated turkish family for example they adapt very quickly and good. Thats a fact. Done. (just think how their kids will grow up then, and their future if they grow up with the rest)

Typical moron mistakes then bitch about it. Klol. You cant just think people with no clue of this western world from the mountais putted together in a 1950's neighboorhood with graffity on the walls to adapt well. Took me almost 18 years to finally understand how this society works, i was born here in a crap neighboorhood and my dad was english scum and i grew up on the street in front of my house. Everyone here had no knowledge whatsoever you cant expect people to just "know" how to be a good citizcen.

[maniman]

Kill Wilders and give immigration family's (no matter what country/religion) decent neighboorhoods to settle in with good advice and education/work. Problem solved. All problem neighboorhoods atm are filled with immigration family's. Ofcourse you get criminal behavior. That's why they come here in the first place

[maniman]

no lol, for education and work. i did this to make it more noticable rofl

[Haapis]

Change the topic to "Radical Islam" then. You just black talking 90% of all Muslims. To who ever started this topic

What do you think as radical islam? At least for me it means the people behind and supporting the terrorist acts.

This topic isn't about the bombings. We surely all agree that it is wrong and the terrorist should be killed. However what actually made me do this topic was the information about sharia and the 40% of muslims in Britain who support it. I don't think you get the difference between the laws in Iran and Finland for example. The position where woman is put to and the respect they give for Qur'an.

Just for instance the guy whos running the local pizza/kebab place here just married his daughter to a guy living in Turkey and the daughter doesn't really even know the guy. Also the daughter is not allowed to even travel in bus to the school because she is not allowed to be so close to any other man. The daughters now studying child care or something and she really sees her future as taking care of her future babies. If she would somehow get close with any guy here she would be taken back to Turkey and killed there because of the lower judging in killing child who has had sex before marriage(Honor killings) Also the same thing would happen if she was raped. Another example of their respect on woman you can see in the law they've done in Afghanistan which permits woman to go outside the house without a permission and marital rape.

Another deep cap between the cultures is the freedom of speak. Muslims are not allowed to criticize Qu'ran and they also think no one else should be allowed. Thats one thing muslims should get out of their heads if they want to live here. However they are trying to change our laws instead. One great example of how serious the Muslims take their story book is about a British teacher who just let her class name a teddy bear wrong and got into jail and the whole school got closed down.

Oh and the about the uselessness of the muslim immigrants. Labour ministrys statics show that in Finland about 50-70% of Afganistan, Somal and Iraq immigrants are unemployed. In other words they cost hell a lot of money for us and most likely are doing something illegal.

PS. Sura [2:191] You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder.

Honor killings:


British teacher held in Sudan over teddy bear's name:
http://www.reuters.c...s/idUSL26646594

Immigrants unemployed in Finland:
http://www.mol.fi/mo...t/wulktyoll.pdf

[maniman]

Thats radical haapis. but i was talking about how it is in the netherlands. so far i know i never met anyone radical like that in holland and i only speak about my own expierences. NOT, and i will NEVER speak thru statistics or media, magazines newspapers. because everyone could wright anything or broadcast anything they want.

but if that shit happens its fucked ind.. dont know anyone around here radical like that.. the muslims i know, i eat with them, sleeping @ a m8's house after a long fun night. and maybe the son's get a beat up sometimes. but i can never picture dad killing daughter n stuff..

[Eminem]

Happis, the problem that you present isn't new, almost every country in the western world have immigrants issues. those problems are well known (And once again, they have nothing to do with the fact that in the nederlands the immigrants are muslims).
what exactly is the solution that you offer or support? kick them all out of the country? secret services trace after the muslim leaders in nl?
or perhaps a better solution will be social equality?

[Ze]

Chill out guys. Don't spam stupid shits and watch out for agressive comments

[uMii]

I'm only talking about Turks and Moroccans in the Netherlands. I can't help it most of them are muslims.

its not cauze im turk, but i never see the turks doing bad things,like fucking a 9 years old kid, or attacking a bank..

if 1 moslim doing something wrong, its all of the moslims...jeez im so happy that folkert G killed that stupid Pim Fortuin..
believe me, soon will wilders BOMBED too, when the state gonna stop with payin his security.. oh i mean, when we stop paying his security

[asrael]

its not cauze im turk, but i never see the turks doing bad things,like fucking a 9 years old kid, or attacking a bank..

if 1 moslim doing something wrong, its all of the moslims...jeez im so happy that folkert G killed that stupid Pim Fortuin..
believe me, soon will wilders BOMBED too, when the state gonna stop with payin his security.. oh i mean, when we stop paying his security

Why ? Fortuin wasn't bad at all, and his grudge towards muslims was mutual. So you think people should be killed just because they don't agree with you. Or you are atleast happy for it ? No, that helps..

[XILLAX]

Everyone knows that immigrants in other countries, whether they be muslim or christian or w/e always cause trouble.

Look, in Scotland polaks cause more trouble than muslims

It's just because when you go to a new country, you seek people of your own country or religion so you can socialise better, and people tend to not like "new comers", mainly it's the country who hosts then that makes them feel unwelcome at the start, and then when people start to welcome them, the immigrants don't trust it for shit...

btw this topic sucks hairy donkey dick

and Haapis, you saying that 40% shit over & over is funny because what you use to back it up is from 2006 and that's called outdated evidence, so could easily have changed. Find something more up to date tbh

[Larry]

Richard wrote:
"Do not forget differences in culture as posted above are one of the reasons there is more criminality in western Europe by muslims, thats a point of Wilders nobody can disagree."

you can ascribe this to the fact that the criminals are muslim, but you should ascribe it to the fact that they're the ethnic minority in your country (you NL right? though it doesnt matter because muslims are the ethnic minority in most of europe).
in every place on earth the ethnic minority is less educated, more poor, more delinquently behavoring. in USA the biggest number of people from ethnic group in prisons are black and latins, not muslims.
it doesn't have anything to do with them being muslims, but to the fact that they're living in a lack.

in the other hand, there's alot of problems with their religious, which is conservative in the bad way, very chauvinistic, and just very bad and violent in generaly.

Exactly my point.

Funny how you speak the way you were sure of those facts but you wont link us any source.

For instance its easy to prove you wrong. In England 4/10 would like sharia take part in England's law. In other words that means that women are not working but raising the kids. That leaves at least 20% of the Muslims not even seeking for a job. Then if we still add this 20% the ones who wont get a job, are in jail or dont need a job because of drug business we got a great reason why to not respect them.

You keep talking about this English poll. If they would add an extra question to the poll, asking "Do you accept a majority of the population doesn't agree with you, and do you accept and follow the ruling laws by democratic vote?" you'd get very high scores on that one, otherwise there'd be thousands of muslims taking right in their own hand right now on the streets.
We live in a country where everyone has a right to his own opinion, it's how you act that could possibly make you a threat to society; (Although I agree, the results of this poll are pretty disturbing and I question it's reliability). And this whole sharia-law thing has mostly nothing to do with the fact that there are relatively a lot more immigrants involved in crime, like Kesem already said, it's their social status that makes them more vulnerable to ending up in jail from the day they're born. There are numerous sociologic studies that support this these (I'm studying it so I'd know) and you won't find anyone analysing society in a scientific way who'd vote for Wilders 'cause they know very well it's a bunch of racistic crap he's spreading, only encouraging hate and an 'us against them'-feeling, which hasn't ever solved anything. But sure, normal people buy his nonsens very easily especially when they've already had bad experiences with foreigners, and especially in times of economic crisis.

[Haapis]

who'd vote for Wilders 'cause they know very well it's a bunch of racistic crap he's spreading, only encouraging hate and an 'us against them'-feeling, which hasn't ever solved anything. But sure, normal people buy his nonsens very easily especially when they've already had bad experiences with foreigners, and especially in times of economic crisis.

Wilders might be provoking and use the hatred and racism to get votes. However Wilders has some interesting facts behind him.
http://www.jihadwatc...ives/025558.php

For instance:

1. No freedom of speech => Riots caused by 1 cartoon

2. Muhammad was a pedophile http://www.usc.edu/s...tml#007.062.088 => Muhammad was nothing like Jesus. He had 14 wives, one of them was 6 years old and he had sex with her when she was nine. Muhammad is the character Muslims idolize. Do you think Muhammad did right?

3. Wilders is quite pro Freedom at least in this speech. He is just against the muslims ideology. "A few weeks ago a British Muslim leader told of his vision of Britain under Sharia law. According to the British Evening Standard Anjem Choudary wants a pure Islamic state with Sharia law in Britain, ‘the flag of Allah’ flying over Downing Street." http://www.timesonli...icle4749183.ece

Should have sorted the text better;(

Edited by Haapis, 13 April 2009 - 10:54 AM.

[YoGGie]

Ask a muslim girl or guy : would u go out with a dutch/german/italian whatever person? most of them say no the cultural differences are to big. Here is your answer

[R3NZ0]

its not cauze im turk, but i never see the turks doing bad things,like fucking a 9 years old kid, or attacking a bank..

No it's becouse most of them are in jail or unemployed so people like me with a normal job have to pay for them for being lazy. One of the reason's it could be good to vote for Wilders.

[asrael]

Voting for Wilders to keep him in the parliament, oké. But to be prime-minister ? Never.