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#21 max

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 09:03 PM

Max, I would like to test the new RPM 0.78.


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Posted 29 May 2009 - 10:07 PM

Hey I've checked the new RPM out a bit. And everything looks sexy.
But something that would make the scoreboard even more sexy is the dmg that a person has done.
I think damage at least deserves as much credit as hs.

I hope you will approve it.

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 10:59 PM

Yeah, I've pre-tested it now as well and I must say it looks so much better than the previous version. Nice work Max.
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Posted 29 May 2009 - 11:14 PM

Hey I've checked the new RPM out a bit. And everything looks sexy.
But something that would make the scoreboard even more sexy is the dmg that a person has done.
I think damage at least deserves as much credit as hs.

I hope you will approve it.

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agree!

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 02:19 AM

Hey I've checked the new RPM out a bit. And everything looks sexy.
But something that would make the scoreboard even more sexy is the dmg that a person has done.
I think damage at least deserves as much credit as hs.

I hope you will approve it.

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I like your suggestion but there's not much room left on the scoreboard. If you have a long name and your location is e.g. "Outside Building by North Scaffold" the scoreboard is pretty much full. I can put everything in the lower line closer together but I think it will decrease the readability alot. It's also the reason why the accuracy isn't shown in the scoreboard anymore.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 04:01 AM

well i have to say that i like the new rpm, but quetsion, for the location are you only able to see where the person is if their on your team?(because that's the way it should be and it probably is that way i'm just asking a stupid question) and also if it is that way what does it say for the other teams loc:? just n/a? i have to say it's a nice add though. And maybe not a glitch but i minimized then came back on sof2 and it said no mt. Another thing, honestly i don't care about time: idk about anyone else but does it really matter how long you have been playing? i feel like that's a waste of space and you could replace that with damage, or another thing that would be cool was if in the top where it's blue for blue and red for red you could put like Overall Damage: and have the # there...just a few suggestions idk if anyone cares for them but i wanted to have my own opinion in this=)

Another thing, when you die on the scoreboard does it keep where your location was where you died? if so that would be cool because it would help the team that your scrim with findout where you died and where to look for the opponent(don't know if this is possible but just another suggestion lol)

And if the other team can see what weapon you use they could attack you if they see you have knife=)


Either way thanks for the great rpm,


Charles.

Edited by charlesowns, 30 May 2009 - 04:04 AM.


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Posted 30 May 2009 - 09:14 AM

well i have to say that i like the new rpm, but quetsion, for the location are you only able to see where the person is if their on your team?(because that's the way it should be and it probably is that way i'm just asking a stupid question) and also if it is that way what does it say for the other teams loc:? just n/a? i have to say it's a nice add though. And maybe not a glitch but i minimized then came back on sof2 and it said no mt. Another thing, honestly i don't care about time: idk about anyone else but does it really matter how long you have been playing? i feel like that's a waste of space and you could replace that with damage, or another thing that would be cool was if in the top where it's blue for blue and red for red you could put like Overall Damage: and have the # there...just a few suggestions idk if anyone cares for them but i wanted to have my own opinion in this=)

Another thing, when you die on the scoreboard does it keep where your location was where you died? if so that would be cool because it would help the team that your scrim with findout where you died and where to look for the opponent(don't know if this is possible but just another suggestion lol)

And if the other team can see what weapon you use they could attack you if they see you have knife=)


Either way thanks for the great rpm,


Charles.

That's called ventrilo.


as for the bolded part, is that a suggestion or what? worst idea ever
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Posted 30 May 2009 - 09:51 AM

no. he has probably tested it and saw that the scoreboard showed what weapon he had. so he wants to know if scoreboard shows weapon for opponents too. which would be TOO stupid. and max aint stupid.
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Posted 30 May 2009 - 11:21 AM

I think that what kind of weapon some1 is using at the moment could be replaced with the dmg, and there is also a bit of space left next to the location part.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 12:11 PM

I prefer to see the "Time" on the scoreboard, so you can see how long everyone has played, I don't care about "Damage" :/.

Charles, did you even try the new mod? I mean, you're asking all those questions while you can find out yourself, just dl the beta and try...
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Posted 30 May 2009 - 01:25 PM

i did try the mod, i have it downloaded. that's why i asked my stupid american questions. i just had suggestions but apparently no1 likes them so nevermind.

the mod is great the way it is(i tried it by myself that's why i had questions on whether i could see other peoples location or weapons because no1 is online at that time of night)


and rocket, i'm saying if the other team could see what weapons we use on scoreboard they could tell their teammates to rush if it's 1v1 on ts or something, i wasn't sure if other team could see it or not it was more of telling why that would be a bad idea if it was like that.

Edited by charlesowns, 30 May 2009 - 01:34 PM.


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Posted 30 May 2009 - 02:01 PM

i did try the mod, i have it downloaded. that's why i asked my stupid american questions. i just had suggestions but apparently no1 likes them so nevermind.

the mod is great the way it is(i tried it by myself that's why i had questions on whether i could see other peoples location or weapons because no1 is online at that time of night)


and rocket, i'm saying if the other team could see what weapons we use on scoreboard they could tell their teammates to rush if it's 1v1 on ts or something, i wasn't sure if other team could see it or not it was more of telling why that would be a bad idea if it was like that.


I actually like your suggestion: when a teammate has died it could keep showing the location where he died.

The location and weapons currently only show for teammates who are in your team and alive.

I think that time is more important than damage. I also like the weapon showing in the scoreboard which could be handy in scrims (unlike damage done) and it's nice for H&S as well.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 08:00 PM

In h&s, will we be able to see in the Scoreboard type: RPM who has RPG, MM1 and M4? Because then we (who have RPM 0.78) don't have to type #r, #m or #c every time we want to find out :).
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Posted 30 May 2009 - 08:04 PM

I disagree. Despite half of the sof2 players are addicted to switching weapons every 2 seconds, I can't imagine how knowing what weapon some1 has can be handy in scrims or in something else. However the location is very nice and does have a value.

And now about the damage. I think many of you people are underestimating value of the dmg due to lack of war-experience.
For example, I've had times that I had the worst ratio in a war but I did actualy have the most damage. Now sometimes this can influence the subs, since some people only look the ratio, while the damage that has been done says more than ratio in my eyes.

I even think that damage has more value than hs or time eventough I would not like you delete them.

Even when I have a 2nd thought about that weapon showing, I still can't figure out where that would be good for. I mean I know the friend next to me has a shotgun in his hands, I can see it because I can see him and I can also see it in the scoreboard, but what does it add?
I can't make him change it or something. Well I actually can because I can see it and I can yell at him at teamspeak/ventrilo, but still why would I want to make him change a weapon. Everybody have their own style of playing and some just camp with shotgun and some with ak.

These days me, and many others say their damage when a red or blue round is finished just so we know among each other, what the value of a person has been.

Peace Out

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 08:27 PM

suggestion:
add a filter to the serverlist to filter by H&S/RD/ND

Edited by nickster, 30 May 2009 - 08:27 PM.

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 11:20 PM

I disagree. Despite half of the sof2 players are addicted to switching weapons every 2 seconds, I can't imagine how knowing what weapon some1 has can be handy in scrims or in something else. However the location is very nice and does have a value.

And now about the damage. I think many of you people are underestimating value of the dmg due to lack of war-experience.
For example, I've had times that I had the worst ratio in a war but I did actualy have the most damage. Now sometimes this can influence the subs, since some people only look the ratio, while the damage that has been done says more than ratio in my eyes.

I even think that damage has more value than hs or time eventough I would not like you delete them.

Even when I have a 2nd thought about that weapon showing, I still can't figure out where that would be good for. I mean I know the friend next to me has a shotgun in his hands, I can see it because I can see him and I can also see it in the scoreboard, but what does it add?
I can't make him change it or something. Well I actually can because I can see it and I can yell at him at teamspeak/ventrilo, but still why would I want to make him change a weapon. Everybody have their own style of playing and some just camp with shotgun and some with ak.

These days me, and many others say their damage when a red or blue round is finished just so we know among each other, what the value of a person has been.

Peace Out

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Lack of war-experience is a non-issue, I used to waste four hours per day playing the game. The weapon could add some value, e.g. if a teammate is in the upper tunnel in mp_kam2 carrying an AK74 he's probably behind the barrier or just entering the tunnel. However I agree that the information is of little value.

If the ratio is influencing subs then your clan's sub strategy is flawed. For instance our best player used to have a (highly) negative ratio consistently. Teamwork and flag captures (for mp_kam2) are much more important than ratio.

Damage could be shown but like I said there isn't much room left on the scoreboard. The only issue is the lack of room and I don't want to remove any of the current information from the scoreboard.

In H&S it will also show the current weapon the player is using. It should be fairly easy to add the #r, #c or #m in the scoreboard instead of the current weapon the player is carrying, I will add this to the suggestions list.

The serverlist filter is something I've thought about myself as well. A filter for mp_shop infiltration, mp_kam2 CTF RPM (which is usually ND), mp_kam2 CTF RPMPro (usually RD) and H&S servers would be nice. I had already looked into that quickly and couldn't find out how to add such a filter. I will add it to the suggestions list as well.

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 04:00 PM

Error.



Unless the pure server has the rpm in it you can't connect to it it will say invalid pk3 so don't get the beta rpm unless your server isn't pure or it has the serverside client.

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 04:32 PM

Baris, I understand your point about damage but why is it really so important for everyone else to know how much damage or ratio you had anyway... It's just a scrim/war right?

So who cares who done most damage, really :)... sorry, but a match is a match, it's just about winning or losing the game ^^,

I think the same about what weapon your team mates are carrying, not so important for me. But maybe for others, idk. That's just my own opinions ofc.

Dunno about the hs thing (headshots). It's fun to see how many hs you've done ^^,

Edited by Slizer, 31 May 2009 - 04:34 PM.

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 04:36 PM

Max,

Can you expand the 'range' on team mate's name? I mean, when you aim at your team mate and his name will show up, but you must be very close to see it... what if you wanna know who's the team mate standing on other side of the map? =), it won't show then... So a suggestion IF it's possible: expand the "range"? (If you understand me).

Edited by Slizer, 31 May 2009 - 04:36 PM.

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 04:53 PM

@charles

was the same thing with the other rpm versions. so DO get this beta. the pure servers should update faster

Edited by nickster, 31 May 2009 - 04:53 PM.

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